As I was reading through several posts a question/thought occured to me.
How many of the base classes from D&D 3.5 have been adapted to Pathfinder by Paizo? And more specifically, how many of these base classes have had their names changed?
For example, there is a 3.5 "Knight" found in the PHB2. Is the Cavelier essentially an adaptation of that class, or are they different enough to be truly different classes?
What other classes have comparisons like this? Oracles and Favored Souls? Magus and Duskblade? Etc...
Thanks!
Oracle and Favored soul kinda follow similar niches though the favored soul is different enough to convert
Magus and duskblade follow similar niches, though the duskblade is different enough to convert
scout and ninja are now rogue archetypes
swashbuckler comes out in 2014
hexblade is arguably a magus archetype, though some more focused on sword and less on spell would be nice
spirit shaman from complete divine could still use a conversion
knight and cavalier aren't quite the same, cavalier is guy with a horse, and knight is heavily armored guy with a shield, knight could use a conversion
spellthief could use a conversion, i'd personally give it rogue talents and 6th level int based spells from the wizard/sorcerer list with an otherwise bardic progression
marshal could use a conversion, probably splice a bit of dragon shaman via archetype and drop the dragon shaman
beguiler and factotum could use a conversion, though i would buff their combat ability, giving the beguiler 3/4 bab and full sneak attack but not quite rogue talents, and giving the factotum some of their intelligence based boons as passives
dreamscarred press is working on the book of 9 swords and hopefully, tome of magic
shugenja and wu-jen, were basically replaced by elemental schools of wizardry, though some of their spells could be salvaged and distributed as appropriate
the oriental adventures samurai and complete warrior samurai could be dropped. and their core abilities turned into feats. mostly the free scaling weapon and some of the fear stuff
the warmage could be turned into a series of feat chains or a sorcerer archetype
the warlock could use a conversion, probably gain a few invocations, balance a few and allow them to full attack with a buffed eldritch blast
The Factotum has a Pathfinder version called The Dilettante from Drop Dead Studios .
Warlock has a number of adaptions - the one I like most is the Invoker from Little Red Goblin Games
dreamscarred press is working on the book of 9 swords and hopefully, tome of magic
Its not actually doing any conversions of Bo9S. Its making a new things and picking and choosing what to take. Its not OGL so you can't actually take the swordsage, crusader, and warblade. That's how it is with a lot. At the moment it doesn't look so hot or much like it, but I've been told that the TOB translates to pathfinder pretty well, though I haven't tried it myself to know. Dreamscarred Press though did translate a lot of the OGL Psionic material to pathfinder, and did add to it with lots of cool stuff. Soul Knife actually looks playable.
Also! Binder has a cousin in pathfinder called the Occultist by Radiant House.
Also! Binder has a cousin in pathfinder called the Occultist by Radiant House.
I prefer to think that I wrote a spiritual successor to the binder in Pact Magic Unbound, Vol 1. ;-)
spellthief could use a conversion, i'd personally give it rogue talents and 6th level int based spells from the wizard/sorcerer list with an otherwise bardic progression
The Sandman archetype actually has some crossover with Spellthief.
Soon a Kickstarter will be coming out with another adaptation of the Warlock class by [Misfit Studios] The Ultimate Witch & Warlock
I'd love to see a bloodmage more similar to the blood magus from Complete Arcane or the maho tsukai from Oriental Adventures... the bloatmage/hemotheurge just doesn't work for me, with the ballooning and all.
hexblade is arguably a magus archetype, though some more focused on sword and less on spell would be nice
spirit shaman from complete divine could still use a conversion
knight and cavalier aren't quite the same, cavalier is guy with a horse, and knight is heavily armored guy with a shield, knight could use a conversion
beguiler and factotum could use a conversion, though i would buff their combat ability, giving the beguiler 3/4 bab and full sneak attack but not quite rogue talents, and giving the factotum some of their intelligence based boons as passives
the warlock could use a conversion, probably gain a few invocations, balance a few and allow them to full attack with a buffed eldritch blast
I would do a hexblade as a 3/4 BAB with some spells ala Inquisitor and some Witch hexes, or a full BAB with very few spells ala paladin but hexes instead of the other special abilities.
Spirit Shaman was a poor class and rarely played in 3.5. Basically it's a druid that loses animal companion and wildshape and gets some abilities sometimes useful against a few monsters. In PF I'd do it as a druid archetype that loses both but gets Spirit Ranger and Spirit Totem powers. Oh, and spontaneous casting.
Beguiler is now one of several bard archetypes, for all intents & purposes.
I'd do the Warlock as a witch archetype. He loses most or all spellcasting except cantrips but more hexes and a ranged touch attack usable 3+stat+level times a day which would do level d6 of force damage.
I would too. Some fantasy stories state that warlock means "oathbreaker" so a warlock would be somebody who rejected his patron and lost his familiar (and consequently all his spellcasting). As partial compensation, I'd give a warlock an extra hex at every odd level which would normally include the above ranged touch attack as a beginning hex.)
Warlocks with spells would be weird though... If your thinking about turning the class into a PF class anyway.
Warlocks with spells would be weird though...Only if you're tied to the 3.5 class. Someone without 3.5 preconceptions wouldn't think it strange at all.
Well, its talk about adapting classes to pathfinder. Invocations tended to be a lot cooler than hexes too I thought. Glaivelock and Clawlock have a ridiculously awesome mental imagery imo.
master arminas did a pretty sweet conversion, it converted any invocations that duplicated spells into just spells. the rest of them are still there, see it here link