Witch - Split Hex + Ratfolk favored class

[bobsayshi]

So my question comes from the Ratfolk favored class bonus and how it applies with the Split Hex feat.

For reference, Ratfolk & Split Hex.
Ratfolk - favored class bonus
Witch: Add +5 feet to the range of one hex with a range other than “touch.”

Split Hex
Benefit: When you use one of your hexes (not a major hex or a grand hex) that targets a single creature, you can choose another creature within 30 feet of the first target to also be targeted by the hex.

example of normal hex,
- Cast slumber - 30ft range - simple

If you've changed Slumber from 30ft to say 60ft (6 levels as a Ratfolk), there are three scenarios,

- Cast slumber - 60ft range - simple
- Cast slumber, split hex - 60ft range & 30ft from target
- Cast slumber, split hex - 60ft range & 60ft from target

Reading the RAW i can read it both ways, how does everyone else read it? This becomes increasingly important when you combine Split hex with Scar.

Does the split hex '30ft' exclude the hex range, or is it a poorly worded hex description?

[Zahmahkibo]

If you're talking RAW, then the description is pretty clear: 30 feet for the secondary target, regardless of the range of the original hex. You don't get a whole extra mile when using Scar Hex, regardless of FCBS.

[Mathwei ap Niall]

The ratfolk ability extends the range of the hex not the feat.
Since the feat is unaffected only options 1 & 2 work.

[bobsayshi]

I get the RAW, but where i see this as being poorly worded is the following case.

Two targets,
1 - target is 50ft away
2 - target is 10ft away

Slumber has a range of 60ft (ratfolk levels)
Split hex has a range of 30ft

It just seems like an odd ability to not be able to cast Slumber on both, when you can get both targets individually.

I'd like to assume this simply wasn't a considered situation when the feat was created and it was instead simply poorly worded... But I agree with your guy's RAW interpretation as well. *sigh*

...Oh well, i'll make my DM do this call in case he has my opinion... knowing his loathe for my witch though i'm doubtful.

Thanks for the clarification.

[Zahmahkibo]

That's exactly how it's supposed to work. You may think the actual design is strange, but it's not poorly worded. Think of it as the hex chaining from one target to another--it's Split Hex, not Double Hex.

If the writers had wanted the witch to be able to target any other target in her full range, they would have centered the range on her rather than on the target.

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Okay, bit of necroposting here, but what about putting the Ratfolk bonus on Split Hex? Would that be legal? So 45 feet for Slumber then 45 feet for the Split?

[Imbicatus]

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote:

Okay, bit of necroposting here, but what about putting the Ratfolk bonus on Split Hex? Would that be legal? So 45 feet for Slumber then 45 feet for the Split?

Split Hex is a feat, not a hex. The FCB only applies on hexes. It's not legal.

[Paladin of Baha-who?]

Split Hex is a feat, not a hex.

[James Risner]

Keep in mind you can't use the FCB until 10th level when you can take the Hex if the Hex was a 10th level Hex.