So where is the combat simulator?


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It's fall 2013. Just wondering if the simulator is out and where I can download it? Thanks!

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pcpx?Announcing-Pathfinder-Online-Pit-Fight

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Unfortunately, it looks like Pit Fight probably won't be available this year.

MumboJumbo wrote:
Is the Pit Fighter Tool still due for late 2013?
Ryan Dancey wrote:
TBH I have not focused much on the Pit Fighter tool; I suspect we'll have to update and revisit that plan before the end of the year.

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It would be probably be wise to look at any date or time related statement by the devs through the filter of Valve Time.

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Ok so we're past the end of the year. How did the revisit go and what is the new plan? I'm itching to see something playable with this game.

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Tyveil wrote:
Ok so we're past the end of the year. How did the revisit go and what is the new plan? I'm itching to see something playable with this game.

I am sure we will hear about it in a dev blog when they have something worked out. Pushing on them for it isn't really going to help with much. Software development almost never goes "by the plan" and it is even more rare with video game development.

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Tyveil wrote:
Ok so we're past the end of the year. How did the revisit go and what is the new plan? I'm itching to see something playable with this game.

If we haven't heard something sooner, I'm positive we'll get an update of some sort in twelve weeks...

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Hrm, They're finishing Fighter and Rogue last they said. Next would be (ie proly around now) working on Wizard and Cleric.

I think they must get those all 4 in a basic shape before any extra Pit-Fighter Tool is on the cards.

Though I'm happy if "senior" backers get first dibs (and promptly report back!) if the capacity is limited initially for Pit-Fighter Tool.

It might be a good number of months however and possibly even just before alpha??


Alpha is due quarter 1. Quarter 1 expires in 83 days or roughly 12 weeks. Dancey has said nothing to indicate they are behind schedule so I would be expecting alpha dates to be announced in the near future

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April 1st is in exactly twelve weeks. We also had an "update" on the Pit Fight tool back on April 1st, 2013. Thoughts on the Pit Fight demo...

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That reveal by Cheney was awesome. Liked the video sneak-peek too.

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We don't have a timeline yet for the combat arena. When we do, we'll share it.

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Appreciate the update, Ryan. While the news is less than my wish, it is much better than ignorance!

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I know folks are gearing up for Alpha, but am curious if the pit-fighter/ battle arena will be up during the alpha testing, or if its just not worth the trouble at this point in time..

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I think the alpha players should make a circle and have two fighters in the middle, chanting Fight! Fight! Fight!

Then stream it and charge for it like a PPV event. :)

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How much would you pay for such a stream?

Just outbid curiosity, not doing market research...

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We're going to be 3 weeks into EE and someone will ask "When are we getting the Fighting Pit they mentioned back in 2012?"

Then four days after OE, "When are we getting the..."

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Proxima Sin of Brighthaven wrote:

We're going to be 3 weeks into EE and someone will ask "When are we getting the Fighting Pit they mentioned back in 2012?"

Then four days after OE, "When are we getting the..."

When will the kickstarter survey be mailed out? :]

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I can understand your remark about going into the 3rd week of EE and asking questions about things like this, but we are not at that point yet…

My opinion is EE is still about 10 weeks if not more away. This was something I was looking forward to trying . All I want to know is that is this something that will be active over the summer or has it been scrapped.
GW doesn’t want to release system requirements, fine I was at least expecting this simulator to get a feel for how my system will run the game prior to getting to EE then finding out I need to upgrade it .

This should be a fairly straight forward question.. either yes we will put it out or no we don’t want to put resources because those resources are busy getting EE ready to roll and getting Alpha up and running.

So while I get that you may not be interested the response I still am…

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This is probably the latest word:

We don't have a timeline yet for the combat arena. When we do, we'll share it.

Unfortunately, it looks like it's probably not going to happen, at least not before Early Enrollment.

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Nihimon wrote:

This is probably the latest word:

We don't have a timeline yet for the combat arena. When we do, we'll share it.
Unfortunately, it looks like it's probably not going to happen, at least not before Early Enrollment.

At which time there really isnt a point. Combat will get tested in game.

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First0f0ne wrote:
Nihimon wrote:

This is probably the latest word:

We don't have a timeline yet for the combat arena. When we do, we'll share it.
Unfortunately, it looks like it's probably not going to happen, at least not before Early Enrollment.
At which time there really isnt a point. Combat will get tested in game.

Not necessarily. Many people coming into this are new to PVP or reluctant. It would be nice if they had a way to try out PfO PVP in a non consequential way. Try some builds before they commit to them. Even if it is not the same as open world, "in game".

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First0f0ne wrote:
At which time there really isnt a point [in releasing Pit Fight]. Combat will get tested in game.

I think it might still be in the cards as a way for folks who might be interested in joining Open Enrollment to get a hands-on feel for the combat in-game. Of course, it might not...

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They'll probably just let everyone into a limited area toward the end of alpha, and call that the Pit Fighter, though it'll be more of a stress test.

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Turns out making the game was probably quicker than trying to cut down a pvp sim. I was prepared for a 2015 alpha, maybe an arena sim around now if it was that far off. Though I would have rather had the actual game earlier, than have part of the dev team bud off and make a community appeasement tool.

RSI was supposed to put out a combat sim last November, still hasn't happened. I think they released a teaser a few weeks ago.

I don't think these new crowd-funded games have released many dates that have been honored. GW has been the closest I've seen.

My rule of thumb, is if it comes out on time, something bad is going to happen, because things were rushed.

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Keovar wrote:
They'll probably just let everyone into a limited area toward the end of alpha, and call that the Pit Fighter, though it'll be more of a stress test.

That sounds smart to me, why make a separate program when they can just give access to some kind of gladiatorial arena in the alpha?

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I don't think it's worth the effort at this point, unless it really is minimal effort. I'd much rather resources be used to bring in new features than a fake pvp simulator.

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It would be neat to see as a promotional demo version of the game that you can then upgrade to a F2P or Subscription account.

Let brand new players demoing things out, duke it out with any PC's that wish to come along and join in the scraps with all the other Combat Sim players.

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<Magistry> Toombstone wrote:
I don't think it's worth the effort at this point, unless it really is minimal effort. I'd much rather resources be used to bring in new features than a fake pvp simulator.

Agreed. Nothing fancy. However I think Keovar's idea could get us something fun with very minimal effort. Could even turn it to some form of lasting gladiatorial arena post game-launch.

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Andius wrote:
<Magistry> Toombstone wrote:
I don't think it's worth the effort at this point, unless it really is minimal effort. I'd much rather resources be used to bring in new features than a fake pvp simulator.
Agreed. Nothing fancy. However I think Keovar's idea could get us something fun with very minimal effort. Could even turn it to some form of lasting gladiatorial arena post game-launch.

If Thornkeep is CN, then that might be the sort of place which has a fighting pit that people place bets on.

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