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Note: If the centipede actually trampled on the surprise round, everyone needs to reread the trample rules. It's explicitly a full-round action to perform.
Also, why would the centipede get a surprise round? Two of the scenario's reviews mention that the first encounter is broken because the party is half dead after the surprise round. If you are planning on GMing this scenario, the centipede does not get the drop on the PCs. It is the size of a bullet train standing upright, and should be as surprised by the spontaneous appearance of a PC buffet as the PCs are landing in the path of a hundred-legged juggernaut.
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Yeah, but remember, if the party choose to bolt by fear of the centipede, and do not save the first batch of elves, they failed their primary mission. There are 6 in Part A, 4 in Part F, and the Primary Mission needs at least 7 saved. My party chose to only save the main person in A and let the rest of the Uprooters fend for themselves as they flew off.
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Played today, centipede killed our cleric of Nethys with a critical bite, and the hezrou finished the remaining three characters with blasphemy. Even misreading the spell as paralyzing those with 8-11 HD, it was a foregone conclusion as the fighter archer, paladin, and holy vindicator were tapped on spells and equipment.
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I had a question on Deepsheen. There are two items that are PFS legal and are called Silversheen. One is a Wondrous Item consumable that makes a weapon strike as silver when applied, and the other is a weapon special material that doesn't carry the penalties of Silver. The Cold Iron equivalent of which is granted by this Scenario?
I have to believe its the former as the Silversheen weapon property is 750GP and includes the Masterwork cost. As currently priced Deepsheen would give the Masterwork quality for less than normal.
As a sidebar, it would be really nice if it were the latter, but with a more appropriate price. That would be a very cool item to receive on a chronicle. As it is, at this level, an oil of bless weapon is almost always a better consumable for application to a weapon.
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In the finial encounter I have a question on how one of the BBG abilities work
Each round a creature is grappled by a hezrou, the grappled foe must make a DC 24
Fortitude save to avoid becoming nauseated. Creatures nauseated need to suceed at
save or wait 1 minute after not grappled. Does it have a range or use the Nausea rule?
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(Ex) A creature with the stench special ability secretes an oily chemical that nearly every other creature finds offensive. All living creatures (except those with the stench special ability) within 30 feet must succeed on a Fortitude save (DC 10 + 1/2 stench creature's racial HD + stench creature's Con modifier; the exact DC is given in the creature's descriptive text) or be sickened. The duration of the sickened condition is given in the creature's descriptive text. Creatures that successfully save cannot be affected by the same creature's stench for 24 hours. A delay poison or neutralize poison spell removes the effect from the sickened creature. Creatures with immunity to poison are unaffected, and creatures resistant to poison receive their normal bonus on their saving throws.
Format: stench (DC 15, 10 rounds); Location: Aura.
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Jiggy, Normally Good can smite evil and law vs.chaos and vis a versa.
Neutral normally can not smite. as they are like neutral. There is a unique smite ability in the neutral book but I cannot remember what it is called.
With the centipede if has the fiendish template would it not be neutral evil? Thus a Paladin could smite it?
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Jiggy, Normally Good can smite evil and law vs.chaos and vis a versa.
Neutral normally can not smite. as they are like neutral. There is a unique smite ability in the neutral book but I cannot remember what it is called.With the centipede if has the fiendish template would it not be neutral evil? Thus a Paladin could smite it?
Actually, no. Take a closer look at the simple template's entry in the Bestiary. While conceptually it might make sense to make a fiendish creature evil, it's not actually a part of the rebuild rules.
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I am running this scenario tomorrow night and I wanted to run some questions by the more experienced. I normally run 1-5 scenarios up to this point and so going into 7-11, things are getting a little more complicated. I swear I looked the rules up, but I still have questions.
a. WISC had 8 tentacle attacks,can you grab more than 1 person with these attacks?
b. If you hit with the tentacle, it does its dmg, then you make your free action grab. Do you immediately get to constrict if the grab lands?
c. Can 1 player be grabbed/constricted more than once?
d. text says "Eukalia strikes through her sporepods and with
magic" Is she able to cast through the sporepod onto the party?
Thanks!
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A. Yes, absolutely.
b. Yes, constrict happens whenever the creature has a creature grappled, even on the initial grab. FAQ link.
c. I believe that sporepods are not able to be used to cast spells or SLAs through. The 'and with magic' is separate from the note about her sporepods. Since her spells have more than enough range for the encounter it is a moot point either way.
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Hmm, tough to say. I think it can only grapple two creatures at the same time, thanks to it's Greater Grapple feat. However, it can't make attacks on anyone else at that point due to having to use both move actions to maintain grapples. Even using the -20 option to hold, it still has to take the action to maintain the grapple or let go.
Which means grappling reduces its offense.
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if it wants to grapple and maintain the hold on multiple targets, it needs to take the -20 to all of its grapple checks, yes. However, with its grab ability, it can do the following;
'hit target with tentacle, deal damage, grapple (with free grapple check from grab), squeeze like an empty Coke can (i.e. constrict), release (as a free action), take next attack'
multiple times in the same round, to one or more opponents.
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if it wants to grapple and maintain the hold on multiple targets, it needs to take the -20 to all of its grapple checks, yes.
The -20 is only to avoid gaining the grappled condition. The grappled condition does not prevent you from grappling another target. Lack of hands to grapple additional targets prevents that, which the monster overcomes by having eight limbs.
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Wait, once the creature has taken an attack, grab-grappled the PC, inflicted damage and inflicted a constrict...can it continue to inflict seven more attacks and constricts on that PC, that round?
Any creature with the grappled condition can continue to take actions so long as they don't do anything that requires both (or rather, "all") their arms/hands/whatever to perform.
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if it wants to grapple and maintain the hold on multiple targets, it needs to take the -20 to all of its grapple checks, yes.The -20 is only to avoid gaining the grappled condition. The grappled condition does not prevent you from grappling another target. Lack of hands to grapple additional targets prevents that, which the monster overcomes by having eight limbs.
Okay I guess this is way more important for NPCs that want to move while grappling.
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I know when I was running this, I was pretty confused by the eight-limbed creature being limited to grappling only two opponents (effectively). Luckily only one PC came within reach. Definitely an area I need to bone up on.
That encounter definitely gets a lot more deadly if the DM decides "huh.. grappling sucks" for this thing, drops the party member and just attacks them again.
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Wait, once the creature has taken an attack, grab-grappled the PC, inflicted damage and inflicted a constrict...can it continue to inflict seven more attacks and constricts on that PC, that round?Any creature with the grappled condition can continue to take actions so long as they don't do anything that requires both (or rather, "all") their arms/hands/whatever to perform.
I understand that, but I'm asking for a more specific answer.
When I played this:
Our party's monk ran up to the "gnome" (Wolf-in-Sheep's-Clothing) and -surprise- was attacked by it. It made its first attack, succeeded and initiated a Grab which also succeeded with the GM applying Constrict damage on top of the attack. The GM then rolled all the creature's additional attacks against the monk, inflicting damage and constrict damage with each one.
Within seconds, our monk was super super dead. Totally dead as could be. Basically dead like two or three times over.
We all were confused, as well as the GM, who was unsure if they had performed that correctly. (GM did a great job otherwise, really on top of all the other stuff in the scenario, my tophat's off to him).
Eventually, in the interest of time and still not having a real clear example, we agreed that it could only constrict ONCE, but still got all the rest of the attack damage it had inflicted.
So, the monk was NEAR death, but survived when the W-i-S's-C was slain before it could attack again.
So...yes or no on all the constricts, during the W-i-S's-C full-round action? My vote was no, since it requires maintaining the grapple and you can only maintain once per round, right? Right? Bueller?
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Wait, once the creature has taken an attack, grab-grappled the PC, inflicted damage and inflicted a constrict...can it continue to inflict seven more attacks and constricts on that PC, that round?Any creature with the grappled condition can continue to take actions so long as they don't do anything that requires both (or rather, "all") their arms/hands/whatever to perform.I understand that, but I'm asking for a more specific answer.
When I played this:
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No, it's vicious. Constrict applies as soon as you apply the grappled per attack. So, the creature would have to hit with each and also succeed on the grapple attempt per tentacle, but would get the normal attack and constrict damage on each.
Most critters don't have near as many grab/constrict attacks, as when they do spike they can do tons of damage.
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Constrict (Ex) A creature with this special attack can crush an opponent, dealing bludgeoning damage, when it makes a successful grapple check (in addition to any other effects caused by a successful check, including additional damage). The amount of damage is given in the creature's entry and is typically equal to the amount of damage caused by the creature's melee attack.
Grab (Ex) If a creature with this special attack hits with the indicated attack (usually a claw or bite attack), it deals normal damage and attempts to start a grapple as a free action without provoking an attack of opportunity.
The way I read it was that you could only constrict once, since grappling someone you've already grappled is like tripping someone thats always on the ground. (would have needed a spatula for the paladin otherwise...)
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Reading James Jacobs here and elsewhere it seems he expects each successful CMB check to inflict constrict damage, which makes this creature seriously deadly. Some more developer clarification would be helpful.
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Reading James Jacobs here and elsewhere it seems he expects each successful CMB check to inflict constrict damage, which makes this creature seriously deadly. Some more developer clarification would be helpful.
That's more of a when then a "how often"
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Reading James Jacobs here and elsewhere it seems he expects each successful CMB check to inflict constrict damage, which makes this creature seriously deadly. Some more developer clarification would be helpful.
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Reading James Jacobs here and elsewhere it seems he expects each successful CMB check to inflict constrict damage, which makes this creature seriously deadly. Some more developer clarification would be helpful.Constrict FAQ
I don't think anyone was disputing that you do the constrict damage on the initial grab. The question is whether you can use the Grab special attack to make a grapple check against someone you're already grappling.
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I don't think anyone was disputing that you do the constrict damage on the initial grab. The question is whether you can use the Grab special attack to make a grapple check against someone you're already grappling.Reading James Jacobs here and elsewhere it seems he expects each successful CMB check to inflict constrict damage, which makes this creature seriously deadly. Some more developer clarification would be helpful.Constrict FAQ
So, attack, grab, constrict, free action drop, rinse, repeat.
I wouldn't see an issue with just doing it straight as grappling 8 times, as it works out the same for the most part. You're still only grappled once and need 1 check to break out (if you survive), and there's an easy way to get the same damage potential.