Sorry dragon but Coullson quake fitz&simmons and yo yo all died. Its nowr more of the Mack show which I think he can carry it with may for back up.
*evil laugh*
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probably be cheaper just to leave him alone. If he goes on a smashing spree probably still cheaper to just repair the damages maybe offer hulk insurance.Plus there haven't been any sightings in a couple years. Not since Sokovia.
THEN WHAT AM I PAYING THIS HULK INSURANCE FOR!!!
HMMPH!
I'm not paying for Hulk insurance. I doubt seriously he'd come to West Virginia.
Also glad to see more callbacks in this episode.
So... I guess now we can say that Daisy isn't the only one to screw things up on this team. Mack is STILL the best one and I felt REALLY bad for Glenn Talbot. Now there's a statement I never thought I'd make in my lifetime...
I missed Friday's episode, can anyone give me a recap?
a lot of it can be summed up with the word "oops"
So do we think she stopped it because of what happened or did she truely trigger it. blondy seemed powerful but not blow up world powerful.
And to think their wasn't even a trigger warning.
Yeah that was disappointing about what happened to "blondie". Also anyone who thinks they saved the world by killing a kid needs to be locked up.
Was never s fan of "Yo-yo" and really wish they would just get rid of her.
Yeah Yo-yo is my least liked character. It kind of already feels like she is on her last season to me anyways. Lets drop her and get Roby Reyes as a permanent character >.> (I'm only half kidding)
I will say in Yo-yo's defense she did cut her arms off, and just accidentally killed someone she at least liked then almost killed two other people (although she had missed most of that.)
What Yo-yo did will hopefully have repercussions down the road. The need for vengeance I understand, but it was still something SHIELD agents just wouldn't do.
Getting Robbie back would be fun, but I thought they handled Ghost Rider quite well. I'd like Bobbie back for that matter, since it seems May isn't going to kick as much butt as before someone's gotta pick up the slack :)
I believe there are around 5-6 episodes left.
There are more episodes and yes the last one is titled "The End"...which once again ABC is leaving this show hanging in the wind...
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There are more episodes and yes the last one is titled "The End"...which once again ABC is leaving this show hanging in the wind...
I don't blame them. The show appears unsure of what it's trying to do. Spamming villains at random when they could have just pulled three or four from a nigh infinite tank of available Marvel villains. I kid you not: I can't count anymore the amount of times I've wished they'd just stumbled on the Shocker robbing a bank.
The only good things about this show: Fitz, Talbot, Blue Alien BBEG (I would expect these three actors to get jobs again after this; and Skye too, because she's pretty, but I'm really tired of the same character she's been playing the same way since the beginning; similarly, Simmons, May, Coulson have had next to no character development since day 1, despite the writer writing shows just for them... the actors seem... to be already preoccupied by the next thing... or they just suck)
Worse thing: if I had to pick one right now, Yo-Yo. But it seems like a combo many things spoiling that broth, including a pace of fast action dullness using the same set for way too long at a time. They should go for a ride on the street more often, instead of being cooped up in that airplane for years on end.
Yeah Yo-yo has kind of worn out her welcome to me, especially after this season. Maybe we need someone else, like an all new "The Patriot" kind of deal.
As for the villains, some have been better than others...but I'm still waiting for the Agents to find an alternate world that has Mutants in it. ;)
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No thomas its definitely Thanos whose going to combine all the marvel franchises.
Despite the Sony, FOX, Universal issues, there was a certain quartet of people on INSITE's target list - right in the middle of Manhattan, about where the Baxter Building should be. So they are already there, just waiting for the limelight.
Uh.. flame on?
Green,
You mean two versions since the first time there's a Johnny Storm that looks A LOT like Captain America...
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Rubie was unevenly acted, unstable, raised to be a psychopath, and still managed to be boring. I realize this is Daisy and the Shieldicats, but why must every villain love Quake? Not sorry to see her go at all.
Psychopath with powers who cut off your arms just for fun? Evidence that she used that power to kill people in the room? Evidence she tortured your friends to get that power?
Even Loagn knew to snikt Jean before she went full Phoenix. Made the right call, Yo.
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Rubie was unevenly acted, unstable, raised to be a psychopath, and still managed to be boring. I realize this is Daisy and the Shieldicats, but why must every villain love Quake? Not sorry to see her go at all.
Psychopath with powers who cut off your arms just for fun? Evidence that she used that power to kill people in the room? Evidence she tortured your friends to get that power?
Even Logan knew to snikt Jean before she went full Phoenix. Made the right call, Yo.
As much as I prefer that killing never be the right choice (or the only choice), I felt like I was watching season 1 of Jessica Jones, where the lead character spends so much time trying to save one person that she's handicapped herself against the threat.
Ruby had already accidentally killed the one dude she actually liked in the world, so I don't think she was going to 'get better.'
Yo Yo's choice, on the other hand, felt more like 'REVENGE!' than 'Must save the world!' since it didn't seem like 8%-of-the-Gravitonium-Lass was much of a Destroyer of Worlds...
So, Yo Yo did the right thing for the wrong reasons? I'm okay with that. If anything, it nicely muddles things, since the TV show isn't straight-up telling us that murdering folk because they *might* be a threat later is the morally right thing to do.
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From Yo-Yo's point of view:
1) She is doomed/fated to first loose her arms, then Mac and the world, then become a prisoner of an alien monster who will even deny her the release death would normally give, bringing her back again and again- to use against her friends. Oh, and just to kick her when she's down, this will be an endless cycle, and.... starting NOW. No time for life or choice or love or anything that could make all of that more bearable.
2) The only advice her "future self" was able to give her is essentially betray mentor and friends.
3) Her alternative here is to place the blame squarely on the woman who recruited her to Shield in the first place, someone who no one wants to believe is responsible (except, of course, Daisy who is completely willing to believe it's her fault.)
4) The Psycho who cut off your arms for fun just got an unknown quantity of unstable power, which, coupled with her personality, could easily spell the end of, at the very least, an unkown number of innocents, and maybe even the world. Best case scenario, she becomes a new leader of Hydra and becomes an enemy you have to face and suffer losses from. Worst, she becomes her hearts desire, the Destroyer of Worlds, and goodbye Earth.
5) In addition to slapping her friends around and torturing them into giving her these powers, she's also used that power to kill already.
6) Daisy is having to talk the Psycho down because even with her powers back, she couldn't beat her down. Actually , Daisy is having Ruby's mother, the same woman who raised her to be a powermongering psycho, talk her down. Who's to say the mom doesn't just say "Ok, good, you're in control, let's kill these Shield chumps and go take over the world?"
7) Ruby has already proven she's quicker on the draw than Yo Yo (which is an incredibly bad piece of writing, but whatevs) and the only way Yo Yo has to take her down is by surprise.
"I'm immortal" is not something she says with hope- it's fatalism.
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And "I just saved the world!" is desperate, stupid hope. All of which will turn to guilt and shame and will be a wonderful excuse for Daisy to be a self-righteous prick who doesn't remember pulling the trigger on Ward in an act that could only be considered vengeance.
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As much as I'm against the heroes killing as a rule... From Yo Yo's perspective She was probably right.
1) She was a serious threat thrashing her allies.
2) Either Ruby is the destroyer of worlds, or Quake is if she uses her powers...
2) Ruby is a psycho who maimed her.
Quake wanted to recruit her to join SHIELD... and probablyfight the big blue aliens that are coming whether they blow up the world or not... but THAT is pretty stupid plan. Ruby is too unstable... and evil to be a joiner... and she cuts off arms for fun.
So yeah... whether it was vengeance or prudence... Yoyo won't be shedding any tears about that... nor should anyone in SHIELD. Best case scenario, they saved the world... worst case, Ruby wasn't going to a postive influence on their odds regardless...
Now Creel?? He could still be of some use, somehow.... they neeed him BACK on his feet :P
All true but it still felt wrong to me. Which is usually I determine if an act is morale or not. Gut reaction it felt like the wrong choice.
Ruby wasn't a psychopath, psychopaths have no fear or remorse, she was clearly afraid and she clearly felt bad that she killed her "boyfriend", she did care for her mother, and she did refuse to kill her dog for "graduation". She was very messed up but not completely a monster, heck she wasn't nearly as bad as Ward. But she was raised by Hydra and mommy dearest, who was actually "Mommy Dearest", and also "Big Momma Hydra". Yo-yo was not in the right, she did it for revenge, and is basically the cause of releasing a much greater threat because of that act of revenge disguised as heroics.
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A cute monster is still a monster. Someone who cuts off someone's arms for fun with no remorse-even joking about it- is a monster.
"Mama bear" Hale was already aligned against SHIELD, and I seriously doubt that the aliens really needed her permission to invade. Remember Hale was responsible for burning SHIELD in the first place. Total War? She already declared that. Oooo, but now she's mad? So what? Still better than having the Destroyer of Worlds Wannabe running around with powers.
Yo Yo's motivations are deeper than just revenge, as outlined above. Primarily vengeance maybe, but rationalized by other motivational factors as well.
Of course it's going to be the wrong move, otherwise that would have ended the season. And it would have been Daisy or COulson who pulled the trigger, since they're the actual protagonists of the series.
As to Ward being worse than Wannabe, I'd say no. More twisted, maybe. But not a worse threat (at least until he became Hive.) And Daisy (or, Skye, whatever) plugged him three times while he was actively trying to help her. And our other protagonist crushed his chest in after defeating Ward and having him at his mercy. So two attempts at murder (one sucessful) of a lesser threat as acts of vengeance.
Daisy and Phil have no moral ground to stand on.
So are we going to argue about the non-elephant in the room IE the sentient gravitonium or is that not a thing now?
yeah I'm kind of putting money on the Gravatonium being the issue
I mean
It is sentient
it's evil
it hates pretty much everyone
Evidence for evil, or hates everyone? Could simply be "alien amoral", and may be insane. Also, what level of sentience? What level of sapience?
It's caged, unable to do whatever is natural for it, except at the sufferance of Other Beings it can't even communicate with except by physical absorption -- which has some unfortunate side effects.
Damon,
Did you not SEE how it moved from one place to another?! I mean that's why Fitz and Simmons were shocked when it did that.
Grey,
Not sure about evil but yes, it hates lots of things.
I saw that it moved from plastic box to transformation chamber, sure. Unclear whether that was entirely voluntary (probably) or if Strucker had found a way to draw it out (less likely.)
But very simple life forms will move toward light, food, heat, whatever. Movement toward a thing implies very little by itself, regardless of speed.
Whatever it started out as, I do believe the gravitonium is now a "creature" rather than a mere dangerous substance; perhaps only as a result of absorbing human minds, but even so.
However, I'm not sure I'm ready to attribute higher order thinking to it just yet. I don't know that it can plan, beyond what animals do to obtain food; I don't know if it hates, or just recognizes certain things as harmful and reacts violently toward them.
I have no evidence I can point to, to say you and/or Grey are wrong. I just wonder if you both aren't getting ahead of what's been really shown.
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I don't like the story, the story sucks, the characters suck, the world sucks. I'ma go home and crawl under my blankey and suck my thumb.
Sooooo......
Gravitonium is Venom?
I was thinking sentient oil slick from a movie who's name I forget
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he really dose look the part actually
Well I figured Graviton might appear...just not like this. Oh well. I guess if you're going to do Graviton, you might want someone that looks the part.
Skeld,
Not sure it's Venom as much as it's hybridized version. I mean it wasn't alive before. Now, it is!
Grey,
I think you mean the TV show. But then again there could be others...
Ed,
Nice seeing you again!
Grey,
I think you mean the TV show. But then again there could be others...
no it was definately a movie. It absorbed the things it killed, could shapechange into them and thought it was the devil thanks to absorbing so many of the locals
Was it that Dean Koontz movie, Phantoms?
Piper's conversation with the other agent mentioned a story he had to tell about "surviving all that with only one scar." Is this something I should remember from an earlier story? Because I don't.
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Because Ross doesn't worry about such things. He always focuses on the wrong thing; it's much the story of his career. For Stark...unless it's donut-shaped or Pepper, it's low on his priorities. Think back to Iron Man 2. Where did Fury find him? In a donut.