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DeathQuaker wrote:

Probably a better post for the Endgame thread than this one, Vid, unless it has to do with why AOS is in the setting it's in.

As for your response to me, if you read my post carefully, the thing I said pulls directly from what Endgame's writers said. The problem is it is now unclear because Word of Gods (directors vs writers) disagree on the impact. But Markus and McFeeley say it was NOT an alternate timeline. No matter how the logic of the universe was explained, the script writers had an entirely different intention. And the script writers have more authority on the subject than you do. Now, again, the directors say something different. All that means is that everything is uncertain, and Marvel creatives aren't on the same page on how their universe works. Which bodes "well" for the future.

Perhaps, getting back on subject, this is why AOS decided to increasingly deal with alternate timelines and possibilities. Because trying to tie in to a fracturing franchise where you can't get a straight answer from the highups is just too frustrating. Better to carve your own niche.

Well... I LOVE Time travel movies.. and I love Marvel, but honestly it was one of the WORST time travel 'rules' that I'd ever seen. Considering I STILL love the movie so much... just goes to show how awesome it was in all other respects.

Writers may have written it... but the director's are the ones who pieced it together and created the actual project shown to us... and by their own rules... I have to say alternate reality. I just can't picture ANY scenario where Cap lives quietly and keeps his head down for decades while bullies and evil threaten the world. It just wouldn't happen. In my head canon, Peggy AND Steve started SHIELD and he was an awesome superhero... and the only evidence I would have would be the 'extra' shield. It had to come from someplace else.

Now the real question I have... is what does that mean for AOS. I don't believe that THEIR history was affected by Endgame... but they JUST did a time breaking event of their own and now I'm curious if THEY are in an alternate universe? If they're still in the 5 year gap... some mention of the 'snap' should be mentioned somewhere... AoS has always done a great job tying in with the MCU... but this season is sticking out like a sore thumb.


Snapping aside
I am very much enjoying the new season. The Shrike are legitimately scary as far as I am concearned. Plus Sarge has a fun group of guys

I like that we are tieing it all in with the monolyths and I am curious as to who the Big Bad is behind these Shrikes


Grey,

Well there a couple possibilities...but I'm kind of leaning towards either Kang, the Living Monolith, or else the Klyntar.

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So... I lasted two shows this season before utterly deleting all these shows from my DVR. Anyone beat me and gave up earlier?


Not sure about that...only that I'm waiting to see if they can turn this season around like they did with Graviton/Glenn Talbot.

That was a ballsy move I thought.

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I'm enjoying it so far. I fully expect that the back half of the season will be even better, once they reveal what the Shrike really are, have the team reunited, and potentially use Marvel time travel/multiverse logic to explain how AoS actually doesn't break the MCU by being a year into the Snap without the Snap having happened.


Joel,

Cause reasons maybe? I just hope the Shrike tie into some semi-recognizable Marvel Comic villain or alien race.


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I wish they would alternate more super hero's through out the show. The ghost rider episodes where some of my absolute favorite.


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Vidmaster7 wrote:
I wish they would alternate more super hero's through out the show. The ghost rider episodes where some of my absolute favorite.

I'll agree with THAT. My favorite core concept of Agents of SHIELD was that they were operating in MCU dealing with problems that the Avengers don't. Ghost Rider, Blackout, Absorbing Man, etc. etc. was why I watched the show... that and Coulson. Random space adventures and Kree… is not what I like from my SHIELD show.

This season is a mixed bag. I'm enjoying the Evil Coulson storyline quite a bit.... but the Fitz-Simmons in Space is tedious. Hopefully they wrap up that little bit, get everyone on the same planet and we can get focused on a good story again. I'm 90% sure that the whole 'Fitz is dead we need to search the heavens for other fitz' was just clean up from last season. They didn't know if they were getting renewed and left that as an open ended cliffhanger in case they didn't. A way to kill a main character without Actually killing anyone... Same thing with killing Coulson. If they had known they were going to be renewed, I don't think they'd have killed him. It was just a shot at 'closure' for what looked like the series finale. It started with his resurrection, it ends with his death kind of thing.


All I know is I'm hopeful the Darkhold will get more mentions in the MCU...maybe.


Everything seems wrapped up too easily...


Vidmaster7 wrote:
Everything seems wrapped up too easily...

How so? We know from next week's preview that

Spoiler:
Izel is still around.
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I'm pretty sure

Spoiler:
Izel took the form of the agent who "went around back" and didn't find her. Seems like the real agent likely blew up with the ship.


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Or she is hitch-hiking inside him, hence him being sleepy.

I mean she is a "demon"...so presumably she has some abilities beyond shrike control


I missed the sneak preview apparently.


I spent the end part of the episode waiting for something to hit the fan, and it didn't happen until the next episode preview. (which is odd, they usually do it right before the episode's end to end on a cliffhanger)


‘Agents of SHIELD’ to End on ABC After Season 7 in 2020


7 Seasons isn't bad.

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JoelF847 wrote:
I'm pretty sure ** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
Or she escaped on the quinjet, which the crew left behind, and wasn't on her ship when it exploded. The crewman who 'went off alone' is probably just shrike-infested, as red shirted SHIELD agents on this show don't get to live long after getting named...

Calling it now: Sarge is the avenue by which Phil Coulson will be brought back on the show, in a manner similar to the Ilia-probe from Star Trek TMP.


so... that was one heck of an info dump.

Damn that Body jumping power is nasty to deal with. Was thinking of running some M&M soon and I'm going to have to remember that one

also LOL
"Dead you thought it was a fear dimension"
"Yes well he wasn't the smart one was he"


IT reminds me of the Denzel Washington movie whose name I can't place. "Fallen" maybe?


We suffered a power interruption just before the end of tonight's episode; DVR got everything up to "We'll return in a moment" right before the last commercial break. Anything happen when they came back, or was it just the preview for next week?

My brain is giving me the silent treatment -- at the moment I can't recall the last thing before that commercial break. I guess I can watch it on demand if it doesn't come back to me.

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