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I can think of one person who can take the Hulk pretty easily...

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Ed Reppert wrote:
Nobody can take the Hulk. Nobody.

Spoiler:
Thanos handled him pretty easily and I think even scared him from coming out

For me, DC Comics Doomsday could handle the Hulk...

But MCU Gravition is pretty powerful, nonetheless.

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You don't fight the Hulk by pushing him down, where he can grip the Earth and get leverage, you fight the Hulk by tossing him up, to where there's nothing to throw and nothing to leap off of. Without anything to act against, his near-infinite strength is infinitely useless.

Just note that he can clap his hands hard enough to create shockwaves, so best to gravitate him out of the atmosphere... :)

But I wouldn't expect Talbot to be smart enough to realize that. He'd try to match the Hulk strength to (gravitational) strength, and only cosmic level folk are allowed to beat the Hulk in that sort of contest.

That's been a factor for comic-book Graviton as well. He's got more power than he knows what to do with, and, despite being really smart, and a scientist specializing in gravitational physics, he's gotten a little too used to thinking of himself as unbeatable, and is more likely to go with the brute force approach than a smart or subtle approach.


Thomas Seitz wrote:

For me, DC Comics Doomsday could handle the Hulk...

But MCU Gravition is pretty powerful, nonetheless.

You mean "X-treme 90s Hulk"?


I think Thor can officially take the hulk at least most of the time.


Even I, as a HUGE Thor fan, recognize that the Hulk is the strongest there is in the Marvel Universe. DC, it's Doomsday.


He is strongest but thor got skills! and lighting lets not forget lighting.


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Lightning.
Though I suppose he could do lighting as well. I'm sure he'd put on one helluva stage show.

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Ed Reppert wrote:
Nobody can take the Hulk. Nobody.

Spoiler:

The Hulkbuster armor did actually beat him.

The only thing that prevented Thor from beating him was the universe's most effective lowjack, courtesy of the Grandmaster.

Thanos didn't just beat him, he out-muscled him as well.

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Hulk is stronger (at least once he gets a bit of anger going). Thor is more powerful.


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Shadow Kosh wrote:
Ed Reppert wrote:
Nobody can take the Hulk. Nobody.
** spoiler omitted **

Incorrect. Or at least imprecise.

Spoiler:
Thanos didn't beat the Hulk. The Power Gem beat the Hulk. Thanos alone wouldn't have had a chance. Oh, his skill vs. raw brute force would have made it a long fight. And the ship wouldn't have survived. But Hulk's raw fury would have made Thanos' own might pale in comparison. But nothing is more powerful than the source of all power.


I forgot a N their twice but I'm going to stick to it anyways. So he can use the lighting to blind the hulk then hit him in the head with his hammer! boom done game.

Yeah green That was my guess but It wasn't as obvious as his other uses of the gems. I think Thanos can usually beat the the hulk but he doesn't do it with raw strength and even has said on occasion he avoids it when at all possible.


Anyways... back to the heart of the matter; Graviton and possibly the end of the world...maybe.


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Maybe Graviton will just mysteriously vanish with 50% of the cast for some reason >.>

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Vidmaster7 wrote:
Maybe Graviton will just mysteriously vanish with 50% of the cast for some reason >.>

I really hope that many of the "in the background" characters vanish into dust, it could be why they've focused on so many of the new Shield agents recently.

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I suspect a few main cast might be on the block as well. Kinda feels like AoS isn't holding anything back this season.


If they kill Coulson and Daisy I will be VERY unhappy. Just Daisy...meh.


I for one will be happy if they do. Never liked Daisy and Coulson was never good enough to carry the show like he has been trying to do.


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oppoiste of what Bjorn said.


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Let's split the difference. Coulson lives forever... Daisy dies a horrible death :D

YAY COMPROMISE!!

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I'm occasionally surprised that I've enjoyed Agents of SHIELD as much as I have, considering that I can't stand Coulson.

I didn't even like his death in the first Avengers movie, since I was all like, 'Really? They called themselves the Avengers to avenge some schmuck that some of them had adversarial relationships with (Thor, Iron Man), openly mocked (Iron Man, Black Widow) or found vaguely off-putting in a creepy stalker alert sort of way (Cap)?' Ugh. Plus he was super-smarmy. Now that he's less so, I find him more tolerable.

Sometimes my rings of contrariness go into overdrive. I hate Coulson, who seems to be the heart and soul of the show. I liked Ward (and am amused whenever they find a way to bring him back, like in the framework), who's generally loathed to a degree shared only by the 'funny' intern lady (Darcy?) from the first two Thor movies.

Then again, I liked Ryan Reynolds reviled Green Lantern movie way better than any of Nolan's critical darling (overwrought, pretentious, deadly dull) Batman films, so my taste is, as the French say, entirely in my mouth. :)

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GreenDragon1133 wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
The Power stone never glowed. Thanos beating Hulk was all Thanos.
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Set wrote:

I'm occasionally surprised that I've enjoyed Agents of SHIELD as much as I have, considering that I can't stand Coulson.

I didn't even like his death in the first Avengers movie, since I was all like, 'Really? They called themselves the Avengers to avenge some schmuck that some of them had adversarial relationships with (Thor, Iron Man), openly mocked (Iron Man, Black Widow) or found vaguely off-putting in a creepy stalker alert sort of way (Cap)?' Ugh. Plus he was super-smarmy. Now that he's less so, I find him more tolerable.

Sometimes my rings of contrariness go into overdrive. I hate Coulson, who seems to be the heart and soul of the show. I liked Ward (and am amused whenever they find a way to bring him back, like in the framework), who's generally loathed to a degree shared only by the 'funny' intern lady (Darcy?) from the first two Thor movies.

Spoiler:

I view the end credit scene of Infinity War as basically confirming that Nick Fury is still running the real SHIELD, which has stayed super-secret, while he's letting Coulson play at running the (at times) public face of SHIELD.


Kosh,

Not sure that's accurate since the public face wasn't Coulson, it was Jeffery Mace. And he's dead now.

Also, Set, I agree that Nolan's films CAN be pretentious, but his Batman is still better than Shumaker's last two.

As for splitting the difference...eh.


phantom1592 wrote:

Let's split the difference. Coulson lives forever... Daisy dies a horrible death :D

YAY COMPROMISE!!

I'm OK with this. I don't like Coulson but I'll accept him getting a good end just to see Daisy die horribly.

For some reason, the only characters I've genuinely liked on the show have been British (as in from Great Britain, not that they are all English), and two of them were removed.

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Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
For some reason, the only characters I've genuinely liked on the show have been British (as in from Great Britain, not that they are all English), and two of them were removed.

I could not stand Fitz and Simmons and how cutesy they were together, back in the beginning, but they've really grown on me. It's a sign of my weirdness that I didn't like Fitz until he was recovering from brain damage. I'm so mean. :)

Bobbi Morse was hands down my favorite Agent of SHIELD.


Set wrote:

It's a sign of my weirdness that I didn't like Fitz until he was recovering from brain damage. I'm so mean. :)

That's when I started liking him too. Seeing him do EvilFitz a couple episodes ago was a real treat. Simmons is bland. The other two I liked are Hunter and whatsisname the LMD creator Scotsman.


Ah the guy from the Mummy series and Spartacus.


Holden Radcliffe, played by John Hannah. I don't know if I LIKED him but he was interesting.

My favorite are still May and Mack.


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Fitz and Mac are my favorites, with Phil and May just a bit behind. Deathlok and the Rider are awesome, too. Daisy and Yo-yo never grew on me. Simmons is sort of in the middle, eliciting neither positive nor negative reactions.


So... Can I say I'm REALLY pissed they killed off a GREAT Marvel comic book character?!


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Yes, you can say that. You aren't alone in that opinion.


I'm glad to know that. Don't get me wrong, I like Talbot as Graviton...even if it makes me hate him. But to do that to a better Carl Creel?!! That's just cruel and insane!


No, your not alone on that one as well.

I would be glad if they killed off Yo-to, never liked her character or her powers.

I wouldn't mind if they killed off May, she never really grew on me as a character.

I would be sad if they killed off Phil but it looks like they might.

I don't want them to kill off Daisy, Fitz, and Simmons.

I like Mack but wouldn't be too sad if he died doing something heroic.


I liked May, having her die is bad. Yo-yo, as you said, isn't the same as her comic book counterpart. And thus less interesting. Mac dying would REALLY suck.


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Season finale: everybody dies. Conclusion: the show wasn't picked up for renewal. :-)

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Thomas Seitz wrote:
My favorite are still May and Mack.

I don't always agree with Mack, but I do love how he's always the one with the 'I'm stuck in a horror movie, and know all the tropes' lines. (Him and Yo-Yo, with the movie references about aliens and robots and hanging the lampshades about how it's all going to go wrong, are always fun.)

May, at some point, transitioned from badass to memetic badass (tell, don't show), and I'm less impressed with her than I was. The line, 'I'll take a gun if I need one,' particularly grates my cheese. She was super-practical, for a long time, now she's just kind of being cocky and overconfident, and I don't like that, since it suggests that she's due for a comeuppance (and if she *doesn't* get a comeuppance, it's just bad writing! If there's one thing I hate more than a character I like making bad decisions, it's a character making bad decisions and being rewarded for it by the writing!).

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While I think Creel is gone, it's always possible when they stop Talbot, Creel's absorbing powers lets him get unabsorbed and survive....


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I don't WANT Creel gone!!! I still need him to fight Thor in Thor V!!

Also Joel might be right.

Ed,

I hope not! I want at least ONE more season before I'm ready to give it the book. (Some reason I stop loving shows after season 6 and hating/actively not watching them in season 8.)


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Ed Reppert wrote:
Season finale: everybody dies. Conclusion: the show wasn't picked up for renewal. :-)

Last I heard it wasn't official. The preview said Season Finale, not Series.

It sounded to me like they don't want to spoiler it by announcing one way or another. But if it isn't cancelled, I'd expect they would either have to be lost in a quantum realm all season, or can't return until mid-May next year. For the simple fact the entire MCU can't elapse in time beyond the last moment of Avengers: Infinity War until after Avengers 4 releases.

Otherwise the show does the opposite of what it is supposed to be doing, by actively subverting or devaluing the movie.

(For the record, there was an article speculating how those events effect Luke Cage season 2. Answer: Netflix shows for the next year - LC, DD, IF at least - all take place prior to whenever the attack on NYC takes place.)


All I know is I still want Creel to fight Thor...

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Sad about Creel as well. The AoS version may be the only on screen adaptation of the Absorbing Man we ever get.


Well the only good version of the Absorbing Man on screen anyway.

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Dragon78 wrote:
Well the only good version of the Absorbing Man on screen anyway.

I don't consider Nick Nolte a viable incarnation.


No one did, Belabras. It was just something that Aang stuck on there for...reasons.

Maybe he'll come back when they reboot the MCU. I mean you know it has to happen. ;)

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Looks like Season 6 is confirmed!


Yay, we get a season 6 (but only 13 episodes)

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Depending on what else might be added to the ABC schedule, I'm withholding disappointment about only 13 episodes. We should know this week the full ABC schedule, so maybe something else cool Marvel related with be included.


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*crosses his fingers for Big Hero 6 and/or Agents of Atlas*

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