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GreenDragon1133 wrote:

I don't either, though he looks familiar.

I can't imagine why Stark or Ross wouldn't notice one alien ship over a small city on the North Atlantic. I mean, it doesn't even look like a donut.

Actually, Caine mentioned to Daisy about something happening in New York. Looks like the Infinity War is taking care of any response to an alien ship that might have come from different sources.


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Huh. I made a comment here on the "oil slick"/"venom" idea referring to a David Gerrold novel, but apparently it fell into the oil slick or whatever and was absorbed. Weird.


Thomas Seitz wrote:
Was it that Dean Koontz movie, Phantoms?

That's the one

seems like there are a lot of evil oil slicks out there


Ed,

It happens.

Grey,

Glad I could help.

As for the weird guy with the scar, maybe he's from Black Panther? Maybe?

Scarab Sages

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Not the Graviton I thought we'd get, but yeah, he does look the part.


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He's not the Graviton we expected, but maybe he's the Graviton we deserve?


Thomas Seitz wrote:

Ed,

It happens.

Grey,

Glad I could help.

As for the weird guy with the scar, maybe he's from Black Panther? Maybe?

He was a background player all last season. Part of the crew on the Zephyr while Gemma and Daisy were in the Framework.

Maybe the scar was from Aida? That was his last appearance last season.
He's been part of the crew that have been with them through the second half this season.
(Based on IMDB)


Green,

Firstly you're right, he's the Graviton we deserve...even if it kind of killed off another character that was beginning to grow on us.

Secondly, thanks for that insight.


No problem. I still don't remember him, but that's what IMBD is for.


So I think we can all guess what the "Craziness in New York" Candyman was talking about was.

I think we may have a clue what happens in end of season cliffhanger


Grey,

What Thanos shows up finally? ;)


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I love coulson. You mean I get to use the cool axe shotgun? awesome!


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Shotgun axe has to show up in another Marvel Movie. :p


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Shotgun axe has to show up in another Marvel Movie. :p

Scene for Infinity War part 2:

Steve, Natasha, and several other Avengers go into a SHIELD bunker, following a lead from Fury about the Tesseract research and how to destroy it. The bunker's defenses are up, but it's deserted. Getting to the main command center, they find a strange weapon. Thor picks it up, frowns, and compares it to his own axe. "An odd invention, don't you think? How do you get any power on your stroke?"

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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Skeld,

Not sure it's Venom as much as it's hybridized version. I mean it wasn't alive before. Now, it is!

I was mostly joking when I said that because I'd just seen the Venom trailer. :)


Skeld,

I know but I thought I'd pretend I didn't get it...

Lathirra,

Not QUITE what I had in mind but eh...


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Also cool gravity kills, and what a horrible way to go.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Skeld,

I know but I thought I'd pretend I didn't get it...

Lathirra,

Not QUITE what I had in mind but eh...

You're right. It'd be more of a Bucky weapon.


Yeah it's definite NOT a Cap or Iron Man weapon.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Yeah it's definite NOT a Cap or Iron Man weapon.

I could just about see Natasha using it. More likely a funny scene with Banner using it though.


Speculation re: season finale and next year.

Spoiler:
Since this is currently running side by side with Infinity War, there could only be a next season if it was out of continuity.

We know Phil will be in Ms. Marvel.

I suspect the end credit scene is she responds to the call from Fury, and gets back to find Coulson and the surviving Agents. Then, either they make a cameo in Avengers 4 (tentatively titled Avengers 11) to finish their arc, or season six comes after a 1 year absence.


Greenie,

Not sure that will happen due to the fact I think the other movie you mentioned takes place BEFORE Agents of SHIELD started.


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from all reports Captain Marvel takes place in the 80s at a time when Nick Fury had 2 eyes


I thought it was the 90s...but eh.

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See 2:52

"Then I was on fire, reaching for Mack, and then there was nothing there." Who's to say

Spoiler:
infinity war
won't be joining us soon?


Reckless wrote:

See 2:52

"Then I was on fire, reaching for Mack, and then there was nothing there." Who's to say ** spoiler omitted ** won't be joining us soon?

Kevin Feige. He's pretty much the guy writing this...


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yeah...there is no way...especially with reduced budget, that the show can afford Brie Larson showing up.


Well there's that too MMC. I mean they spent what...over 3 million just for SLJ?


MMCJawa wrote:
yeah...there is no way...especially with reduced budget, that the show can afford Brie Larson showing up.

You think she'd be more expensive than Samuel L Jackson? I mean, She's done TV appearances before, and I don't think her stars shining as bright as like Robert Downey Jr or Chris Hemsworth.

I'll admit it's unlikely she'd show up... but I wouldn't call it an impossiblitiy :P


Phantom,

Not unless the show can give her more money. Her star might not be as bright as Thor or Iron Man, but consider that this show couldn't get BATISTA to show up... you might be way undervaluing things.


Thomas Seitz wrote:

Phantom,

Not unless the show can give her more money. Her star might not be as bright as Thor or Iron Man, but consider that this show couldn't get BATISTA to show up... you might be way undervaluing things.

Probably.

Honestly, i really don't know the actress yet. I hadn't heard of her before she was attached to Captain Marvel and I think I saw her in one thing since... Kong maybe? So I'm not sure if she's up to the 'Diva' stage of being 'too good for TV' yet.

My point was more that Agents of SHIELD was able to get Nick Fury, Maria Hill and Lady Sif for guest appearances and enough of a budget to make a rather kick butt Ghost Rider... So they may be able to work some magic if it fits the story.

As it is between CM and Avengers 4, she's probably too busy to guest star... but I wouldn't even be surprised if Marvel and Disney have it in people's contracts that they don't just 'turn down' appearances if the higher ups want them there...


Probably the latter, especially since I think she's still doing work on the film until the end of summer...maybe. I know it's in production.

Silver Crusade

I’m thinking that this is likely my favourite season. It especially stands out after the unfocused nature of the last season, what with the three different acts they went for. I’m also glad they killed of Ruby, she was a villain that was good to hate and whose themes tied in well to the whole “inescapable future” metaplot.

I really hope Coulson kicks the bucket by the end of this season, though, otherwise the teasing will have been a bit lame.


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NO son of coull is best!


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I didn't last season was THAT unfocused. So much as it kind of was mini-arcs that connected.

Also I'm with Vid, no Coulson means no Agents of SHIELD.


phantom1592 wrote:


Probably.

Honestly, i really don't know the actress yet. I hadn't heard of her before she was attached to Captain Marvel and I think I saw her in one thing since... Kong maybe? So I'm not sure if she's up to the 'Diva' stage of being 'too good for TV' yet.

My point was more that Agents of SHIELD was able to get Nick Fury, Maria Hill and Lady Sif for guest appearances and enough of a budget to make a rather kick butt Ghost Rider... So they may be able to work some magic if it fits the story.

As it is between CM and Avengers 4, she's probably too busy to guest star... but I wouldn't even be surprised if Marvel and Disney have it in people's contracts that they don't just 'turn down' appearances if the higher ups want them there...

Well, Brie Larson won a Oscar for The Room in 2016. It's one of those things where...a lot of folks Marvel has been signing up are actually pretty successful actors outside of genre. It's just those films fly under the our (myself included) radar.

As for Kevin Fiege, he is not in anyway involved with the TV division, and in fact the heads of both divisions openly dislike each other. The two divisions have been under separate management, I think sometime around Age of Ultron being released or something. I am sure there is something in her contract that has her show up in other MCU movies, but I can't imagine Fiege throwing a bone to his rivals.

I honestly expect at some point the movies openly pretending that the existing shows didn't exist, and recasting and filming new daredevil/Luke Cage/etc movies.


MMC,

Not sure about that recasting but maybe once we get Secret War 2015 version to blow realities up...then maybe it might fold in together.

Also I'm pretty sure Feige, while staying out of TV, still keeps his finger on the pulse, mostly to see what can work where.


I dunno...some things of late don't see conducive to television :)


MMC,

Eh. I think if we had the Beyonders show up and blow the crap out of the MCU and various others...then have them all fold back on each other again...well you get the idea.


Well Gotta say, that's a pretty damn good Graviton.

Plus we have confirmation that the thing the Confederation was supposed to protect Earth from is Thanos. (Also they lied about the protecting bit, cause well....it's Thanos)


Grey,

Well yeah. I mean it's THANOS. If some guy says "I can protect you!" pointing off to the distance where a Cat 6 Hurricane is coming in...I'm pretty sure the guy is lying. ;)


Getting a little tired of the bait-and-switch hot potato on who ends up being the Destroyer of Worlds. Daisy to Ruby to Talbot...okay. But the dialogue from the preview for next week seems to toss it back to Daisy?

(I mean, not that it matters, since the whole Earth-splitting-apart event will ultimately end up being prevented, but still...)

Talbot makes sense to be the actual threat. He's not debilitated by the gravitonium infusion in the way Creel and Ruby were; he's irrationally confident in his ability to accomplish anything now, and determined that pulling additional large amounts of gravitonium from the Earth is the next step. What could go wrong?


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Remo Williams is the Destroyer.


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I would have preferred a slightly more nuanced fall into villainhood for Talbot. Had he been more 'no seriously, I got this, we don't have time to argue so I'm overruling you, you'll see I was right' and less 'you're either with me or against me', it would have worked better.


I bet in some part of his mind there is ne small thought of "I bet I could take the Hulk now"


Greylurker wrote:
I bet in some part of his mind there is ne small thought of "I bet I could take the Hulk now"

Yeah, that works so well...then someone uses the Hulk-summoning ritual:

"I'm the strongest one there is!"
BOOM!
"Wanna bet, tough guy?"


Could be moot since the Hulk doesn't seem to want to come out and play these days.

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Greylurker wrote:
I bet in some part of his mind there is ne small thought of "I bet I could take the Hulk now"

Wasn't there a scene in the Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon where Graviton kept trying to pin the Hulk with his powers and the Hulk kept on coming.


Marik Whiterose wrote:
Greylurker wrote:
I bet in some part of his mind there is ne small thought of "I bet I could take the Hulk now"
Wasn't there a scene in the Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon where Graviton kept trying to pin the Hulk with his powers and the Hulk kept on coming.

Indeed there was. Hence my abbreviated quote above. It's still one of my favorite scenes from that show.


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