Kahnya,
Probably but only because they can't drag Coulson back from the dead again...
Sez who? :-)
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Sez who? :-)
Agreed. There are two things to remember when watching this finale.
1) They didn't know if they were getting renewed, so it had to work as a series Finale too
and....
2) They WERE renewed. So anything can happen next year.
At the end of the day, there was one death and it didn't matter. We have everyone still standing as they fly off into the sunset. It really was an excellent finale. If they wanted to turn it into a comic book for season 6, Coulson would be fixed and good to go by issue 3. no reason they can't do the same thing on screen.
It MAY cheapen the ending here... but most shows don't care about that in the grand scheme of things. Just what will get people to tune in to the NEW season, and Coulson is a major draw.
I don't count him out till I see a cold dead corpse.... and even then I'm skeptical. Walking off into the beach?? That's a clean getaway. Heck... for all WE know he was placed back into the TAHITI simulation with May added in this time. That green screening was pretty suspect ;)
Is that specifically relation-ships?
Anyways, we'll see if Coulson comes back. I doubt it since it's clear Ming-Na Wen isn't coming back. But that might just only affect her, not the team.
Also yes TV shows do pull this crap. *Look at Supernatural...*
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Not sure I care for Chloe's blonde look...but eh. I'm still happy to get a season 6. I hope though they bring back Ghost Rider.
Not liking Chloe's blonde look at all. Too be honest I was hoping for more supernatural stuff, I am getting tired of the Sci-fi/space stuff.
Belabras,
I'm not sure it's knew so much as suspected...but some of us hoped the brain trust would try to go back to some supernatural elements...if only because I want to see the Darkhold again and maybe even Blade.
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Belabras,
I'm not sure it's knew so much as suspected...but some of us hoped the brain trust would try to go back to some supernatural elements...if only because I want to see the Darkhold again and maybe even Blade.
Maybe Season 7 will come out close to Doctor Strange 2 and have a more supernatural theme? Do we even know what movies are supposed to come out in 2020?
Green,
Don't forget Mike Colter too! I'd love to see him along with Finn Jones to bring us a Heroes for Hire deal.
Hm. I may have to go back and binge season 5, 'cause I don't remember that.
I vaguely remember that because there was that whole "Graviton will destroy the Earth" and Daisy saved it instead.
That part I remember. :-)
Hm. I may have to go back and binge season 5, 'cause I don't remember that.
Yep... long story short, Most of the agents were zapped to the future. Fitz took the long way by being in suspended animation until the future.
'future' fitz died in the finale when they all remembered 'HEY... 2016 Fitz is still flying around in a box out there just waiting for us to find him...
Since we can change time, let's go do that!!'
Personally Coulson has always been my favorite character in AoS… Him being 'dead' annoys me and really diminishes my interest. However He still seems to make a few appearances, so MAYBE it'll be enough?? Time will tell. If they are wrapping up the story, I'll probably stick it out, but if they want me for a season 7, I'm going to need some serious Coulson appearances. :)
I still want more Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider. :P Him and Blade should team up to hunt vampires.
Mac is pretty awesome, but Daisy has gone from mild annoyance to outright hatred for me. The more she's on the screen... the more I dislike that character.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. returns May 10th.
Something I can enjoy binge watching in August I'm sure.
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Finally had a chance to watch the first episode, and glad I have 3 more to binge before getting caught up. Lots of interesting mysteries to explore. One thing I'm wondering is how the season 5 time travel stuff works now with the Avengers Endgame reveal that changing timelines creates split off universes. Is AoS now in an alternate universe from the main MCU? Hoping/expecting this will somehow be addressed this season.
Joel,
Maybe. I dunno. I mean for a while there, it seemed like Agents WAS in the same timeline...but now? Who knows??
I'm confused on the time line for this season. When is this season taking place in relation to "the snap"?
And yes I'm interested in the time travel stuff too.
It's one year after the events of Infinity War, which means that yeah, it has to take place in an alternative reality
(Apparently the TV folks were not kept in the loop about the whole 5 year jump...They probably figured 1 year in the future would be sufficient).
That actually really bugs me. I always felt the biggest draw for AOS was that it went along with the movies. Get to see the effects of those big events on the little guys. (Dog knows its not the constant tragic fitz/simmons relation that keeps me coming back.)
I know, Kahnya, but it's only in the works and still in its infancy.
Plus they need to let Ghost Rider go full R with Blade and Moon Knight.
That bugs me as well.
I don't think I would go so far to say that the TV shows, blanket statement, are proclaiming separation. Ghost Rider specifically is said to be separate.
AOS I think all they have said is that it doesn't directly tie in specifically to Endgame, but they have wriggle room because of Endgame's time jump and AOS's own time and space shenanigans. Obviously many past events have tied into the films on AOS and I don't think that's changing--there's still obviously shared continuity. Just right now they've dived down an alternate timeline (which is specifically possible due to the physics laid out in Endgame).
Agent Carter was (theoretically) safe (until, ironically, Endgame) because it was fixed events in the distant past nowhere near "current" events, and merely filled in details of an existing movie character's life.
The Netflix shows, however kept separate, made enough nods to tie in to be the same universe. I haven't seen it, but I've heard Cloak and Dagger make specific references to clarify it is part of the MCU and that isn't going to change.
AFAIK, most of the new series on the Disney+ channel are "canonly" in the MCU, e.g., WandaVision and Winter Soldier and the Falcon (until we hear otherwise). Obviously What If? by its nature explores alternate universes.
And Endgame itself basically creates the possibility of a multiverse now, so anything that does happen that is "separate" is just a split timeline and still part of the greater MCU. Is that very comforting? No, but Endgame makes it possible, so it's either follow along the consequences of that movie, or ignore that the giant blockbuster multibillion dollar film didn't happen, so.
All I know is I'm not surprised by Agents of SHIELD dealing with a Multiverse, since Ghost Rider kind of touched on that.
Agent Carter is still safe, as Endgame only went as far back as the 70's, when SHIELD was already established, and Peggy was director.
Cloak and Dagger made some side comments, like a bad guy in the first season saying he had to keep up with the Rands and the Starks, as well as the main cop on the show knowing Misty.
We also get a conversation about Luke Cage in the second season. The finale also sees them head off to LA where there has been speculation that they might directly cross over with the Runaways.
Right now all I know is Agents of SHIELD is doing it's own thing...
Agent Carter is still safe, as Endgame only went as far back as the 70's, when SHIELD was already established, and Peggy was director.
That's not the issue, it's...
I keep missing the new season of Agents of SHIELD, how is it?
Good so far, and the last few episodes have by far been the most funny episodes they have done on the show (not that they have discarded the serious elements)
"The mission is.....LADY'S NIGHT!!!!"
From what I can see, DQ, this might not be as stellar as Season 4 (but then I was hooked because of Ghost Rider AND the Darkhold), but it's certainly leagues better than parts of 5.
Agent Carter is still safe, as Endgame only went as far back as the 70's, when SHIELD was already established, and Peggy was director.That's not the issue, it's...
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I keep missing the new season of Agents of SHIELD, how is it?
Technically not undone just cap spawned an alternate universe.
Because time travel doesn't work that way.
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*end game spoilers ahead but honestly if you haven't seen it now WTF*
Now here Is what I find real interesting about endgame time travel. So wouldn't every single set of avengers of found their own time line so in other words theirs a time line where cap fought cap which has nothing to do with the time line where hulk got the gem from the ancient one and it didn't effect the time line where Thor's hammer went missing.
Now this gets sketchy but Wouldn't cap heading back to return the gems (and Thor's hammer) end up just going back to the same time line again so he would end up finding another 2nd set of infinity stones. (maybe the infinity stones have a work around for that /shrug) In theory you could keep going back to the same instance and just gather as many as you want like a re-spawning video game dungeon. Because you can't change the past so every time you go back it should be exactly the same. your basically just making the universe keep splitting alternate time lines.
Probably a better post for the Endgame thread than this one, Vid, unless it has to do with why AOS is in the setting it's in.
As for your response to me, if you read my post carefully, the thing I said pulls directly from what Endgame's writers said. The problem is it is now unclear because Word of Gods (directors vs writers) disagree on the impact. But Markus and McFeeley say it was NOT an alternate timeline. No matter how the logic of the universe was explained, the script writers had an entirely different intention. And the script writers have more authority on the subject than you do. Now, again, the directors say something different. All that means is that everything is uncertain, and Marvel creatives aren't on the same page on how their universe works. Which bodes "well" for the future.
Perhaps, getting back on subject, this is why AOS decided to increasingly deal with alternate timelines and possibilities. Because trying to tie in to a fracturing franchise where you can't get a straight answer from the highups is just too frustrating. Better to carve your own niche.
ROFL!
This discussion is just bizarre. :-)
You make a good point, Ed. :)