animals and barding


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do animals require armor proficiency in order to have barding? I'm trying to have my lion (and later my roc) to have barding I would just love to know the information required.


They will take non-proficiency penalties if they are not proficient.


DeltaOneG wrote:
They will take non-proficiency penalties if they are not proficient.

However its pretty easy to hit 0 ACP and therefore your taking a penalty of 0 for non proficiency!


Leather, masterwork studded leather, and later a mithril chain shirt. This should be a decent progression in O ACP armor based upon just the simplest options for the price ranges over your career.

Just be careful of the price: armor cost doubles once for a nonhuman shape, and then doubles again with a size increase. While I am not sure if this price increase applies to the masterwork quality, but it would most likely apply to special material costs.


Along the same lines, can a small cat (leopard) be equiped with small/light barding. The only reference to it i can find is in the gear section that states 'barding made of medium or heavy armor provides better protection than light barding, but at the expense of speed'.

But there is no info on cost/penalties for small or light barding.


In this: medium and heavy are catagories of armor, not sizes.

the penalties are the same as standard armor.

They reduce speed by about a third, heavy reduces run speed to 3x


Seifer88 wrote:

Along the same lines, can a small cat (leopard) be equiped with small/light barding. The only reference to it i can find is in the gear section that states 'barding made of medium or heavy armor provides better protection than light barding, but at the expense of speed'.

But there is no info on cost/penalties for small or light barding.

Yes it can, it would weigh 1/2 as the same barding for a pony and cost the same. This is just like armor for halfing compared to humans.

A bit off topic, but I was thinking about how how all barding cost twice as much because "nonhumanoid". This means two things
1. Horse barding cost the same as griffon barding.
2. It is cheaper to buy armor for ogres than horses.

Grand Lodge

3. We should domesticate and train ogres as riding beasts.

Griffons make up for it a little with the weight and price of their saddles. Have you seen the cost for exotic riding saddles?

By the way, Seifer, you want page 153 in the core book, which has the price and weight adjustment for different size / shaped animals.


Cool. Thanks for the help. I missed that table.

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