
Archane |

Okay I have this creature in the next Module. Seems rather cool with what he does, besides his combat block, but their's one defensive ability they put on him that I can not find anywhere in my Bestiary books or any of my other player hand books.
Here he is.
And the ability is feign death as is implied by the title. However as I said before. I can't find it in any of my books. I get that you know he's Feigning Death which means he's going to pretend to die, but how does it work. Checks, can my PC's see through it, is an illusionary spell he can cast on them. Etc, etc.

Thazar |

Archane |

... Why would a paizo module though use a third party feat to design their creature. I mean I was aware of that, but I thought; that can't be it cause it's a third party feat. I mean their not official feats one can use without GM's permission are they?
And besides the nightmare Rook doesn't qualify for that feat. He has no ranks in bluff.
Thanks though.

Sean K Reynolds Designer, RPG Superstar Judge |
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... Why would a paizo module though use a third party feat to design their creature. I mean I was aware of that, but I thought; that can't be it cause it's a third party feat. I mean their not official feats one can use without GM's permission are they?
Are you saying that Paizo can't use third-party material designed for use with Paizo's game?
I guess we should all throw our copies of the Tome of Horrors, Complete and Kobold Quarterly in the trash...

Archane |

Archane wrote:... Why would a paizo module though use a third party feat to design their creature. I mean I was aware of that, but I thought; that can't be it cause it's a third party feat. I mean their not official feats one can use without GM's permission are they?Are you saying that Paizo can't use third-party material designed for use with Paizo's game?
I guess we should all throw our copies of the Tome of Horrors, Complete and Kobold Quarterly in the trash...
What I'm saying is it's odd they would use such a feat in extra material, without writting out what it does. They did use the Tome of Horror extras monsters in earlier modules and did write out any abilities that didn't show up in the bestiary or other core books. Then to give him a feat as a Defensive ablity that he doesn't even qualify for in the prerequisites. That's what I find odd.
It's also why I think it has to be something else.

Sean K Reynolds Designer, RPG Superstar Judge |

Ahh, makes sense now.
That creature uses the nightmare creature template from the Advanced Bestiary. The feign death ability is something from that template and is printed in the Advanced Bestiary. Normally we'd fully describe any strange abilities from a third-party source (frex, its living nightmares) ability, but I spoke to James and he says "looks like I forgot to include the description of that ability, probably because it's not going to use that ability when you encounter it in the adventure.
FYI, the template's feign death ability is similar to that of many scary creatures in horror movies:if you knock it out, it looks dead (or it can make itself appear dead as an immediate action in response to an attack), but it can jump right back up and scare you and attack you BWAHAHAAAA! So... not really relevant to the creature's use in the adventure.

Endront |
Okay I have this creature in the next Module. Seems rather cool with what he does, besides his combat block, but their's one defensive ability they put on him that I can not find anywhere in my Bestiary books or any of my other player hand books.
Here he is.
And the ability is feign death as is implied by the title. However as I said before. I can't find it in any of my books. I get that you know he's Feigning Death which means he's going to pretend to die, but how does it work. Checks, can my PC's see through it, is an illusionary spell he can cast on them. Etc, etc.
Here is a link to pathfinder website Nightmare creature template.
[url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/templates/nightmare-creature-cr-1[/url]
Endront |
Okay I have this creature in the next Module. Seems rather cool with what he does, besides his combat block, but their's one defensive ability they put on him that I can not find anywhere in my Bestiary books or any of my other player hand books.
Here he is.
And the ability is feign death as is implied by the title. However as I said before. I can't find it in any of my books. I get that you know he's Feigning Death which means he's going to pretend to die, but how does it work. Checks, can my PC's see through it, is an illusionary spell he can cast on them. Etc, etc.
Here is a link to pathfinder website Nightmare creature template.