Hi I was wondering what happens when an undead barbarian rages. I understand that an undead barbarian would use charisma to determine rounds of rage per day. But would the rage moral bonus to Con turn into a bonus to charisma? Or would it simply not apply to anything.
Rage would do nothing for them.
Immunity to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, morale effects, patterns, and phantasms).
While in rage, a barbarian gains a +4 morale bonus to her Strength and Constitution, as well as a +2 morale bonus on Will saves. In addition, she takes a –2 penalty to Armor Class.
Sorry, I lied. You'd still get the -2 penalty to AC. But none of the benefits. On the plus side, you could rage cycle from level one since you're immune to fatigue.
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Undead barbarians are few and far between for a good reason.
Its hard to get quite as mad about things once your dead. Its like eating how wings: its hard to get really worked up about your problems when your hands are covered in grease.
Figure s right I forgot about the moral bonus for undead. I am in an evil game where I might become a grave knight. The character is a synthasist and I am trying to determine the best one level dip to get heavy armor proficiency.
I know this is thread necromancy and I deeply apologize but i thought I might put my 2 cents in and ask about the undead barbarians that have been put in some of the modules and adventure paths?
the reason I am asking this is because I am working on a Steelblooded Bloodrager with the Undead bloodline and I was thinking of working with my dm to turn him into a Graveknight
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I know this is thread necromancy and I deeply apologize but i thought I might put my 2 cents in and ask about the undead barbarians that have been put in some of the modules and adventure paths?
the reason I am asking this is because I am working on a Steelblooded Bloodrager with the Undead bloodline and I was thinking of working with my dm to turn him into a Graveknight
Previous undead barbarians have worked either because the author forgot it didn't work, or because they used their powers as a GM/Author to make it work despite the normal rules.
Now however, the unchained barbarian gains it's bonuses untyped rather than as morale allowing for as many barbarian gravekinights as you want with no need to fudge the rules.
Actually as of Monster Codex it's become official rather than fudging/forgetting. Undead with levels of Barbarian can rage and they gain bonuses to Cha instead of Con.
If it's not too much trouble could you please quote the relevant text?
I'm just interested to know whether that change was made as a clarification in a sidebar, or a special ability, or feat or whatever.
Thank you.
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Actually as of Monster Codex it's become official rather than fudging/forgetting. Undead with levels of Barbarian can rage and they gain bonuses to Cha instead of Con.If it's not too much trouble could you please quote the relevant text?
I'm just interested to know whether that change was made as a clarification in a sidebar, or a special ability, or feat or whatever.
Thank you.
At the end of the vampire barbarian stat block at page 241 of the Monster Codex:
Undead Barbarian An undead creature with the ability to enter a rage gains the morale bonuses from rage despite being immune to morale effects. The bonus to Constitution from the rage applies to an undead creature's Charisma instead.
thank you Lost In Limbo, Rysky, and Entryhazard, I will relay this information to my dm asap
Could also look into the Ragewight, found on page 58 of "Andoran, Birthplace of Freedom". As the name implies, its a type of Rageing undead. Might be a better fit than a Graveknight!
Could also look into the Ragewight, found on page 58 of "Andoran, Birthplace of Freedom". As the name implies, its a type of Rageing undead. Might be a better fit than a Graveknight!
does it have the rejuvination like ability like the graveknight?
My opinion is that one GM should not implement Undead Barbarians for undead creatures that are unemotional like zombies or skeletons.
Hey, never had a thread get necroed before. Nice new info, to bad the pbp campaign petered out.
My opinion is that one GM should not implement Undead Barbarians for undead creatures that are unemotional like zombies or skeletons.
and what about undead with emotions?
I suppose that for an example a vampire un blood frenzy could justify a barbarian class.