Is there anywhere that has this chart? Like if Im weilding a greatsword and get enlarge personed where do I find the next size category for the damage the now large greatsword does? I tried weapon size in the ogc and got nothing like what I was looking for.
Or the next step up my 1d6 Beast Totem claws would (i imagine given that theyre larger too - better yet DO they scale up?) do?
The "tiny and large" weapon size chart in the Equipment chapter, combined with the chart in the Improved Natural Attacks feat, should provide what you need for the majority of cases.
Quick derail? Base damage on a Huge sized creature's greatsword? 2d6 becomes 3d6, but what does the 3d6 turn into? We had a player considering building a character who used an impact enchanted greatsword and some shennanigans to become large sized (yes, 'as if another sized category up' not stacking was addressed and he had found a way around it, forget how though) for a higher base damage, then going the Vital Strike feat path, but we couldn't clearly tell him what the damage would be. The chart doesn't quite cover that.
That, and it's seemingly not consistent, what with that last example entry, 2d6 (small/tiny -it's poorly labeled) becoming 2d10 (medium) becoming 4d8 (large), where just two lines up, 2d6 (medium) becomes 3d6 (large).... 2d6, up a category, is given two examples of what it turns into, unless I'm misreading something...?
3d6 becomes 4d6, as per the chart in the Improved Natural Attacks feat.
The last example is odd, but if you look at it more according to the mindset of "what does 2d10 become" than "what does 2d6 become", then it sort of works.
Besides, I'm pretty sure the monk class is the only instance of 2d10 base damage in any of the books, so that part of the chart probably works off the monk damage chart (which increases 2d6-2d8-2d10) rather than the other parts of the weapon chart.
The reason for confusion is both that last example on the chart though, and the labeling of the chart. Scroll up a bit for the paragraph:
this possibly mislabeled table? wrote: Dmg: These columns give the damage dealt by the weapon on a successful hit. The column labeled “Dmg (S)” is for Small weapons. The column labeled “Dmg (M)” is for Medium weapons. If two damage ranges are given, then the weapon is a double weapon. Use the second damage figure given for the double weapon's extra attack. Table: Tiny and Large Weapon Damage gives weapon damage values for Tiny and Large weapons. The possible difference in that Small or Tiny category on the table might be it...it's described as Small in the description, then labeled Tiny.... *which is it?* Or is it somehow referencing something completely different, on a different table?
Although... It could explain the numbers if that 2d6 in the last line on the chart was for a Tiny sized weapon, as that would mean that 2d6 (Tiny) becomes 3d6 (Small), which becomes 2d10 Medium and then finally 4d8 (Large)....? Still inconsistent with the table for Improved Natural Attacks, but it would mean the table is not mislabeled.
Perhaps I'm reading too much in it. *shrug* Merely curious now :D
Natrim wrote: The reason for confusion is both that last example on the chart though, and the labeling of the chart. Scroll up a bit for the paragraph:
this possibly mislabeled table? wrote: Dmg: These columns give the damage dealt by the weapon on a successful hit. The column labeled “Dmg (S)” is for Small weapons. The column labeled “Dmg (M)” is for Medium weapons. If two damage ranges are given, then the weapon is a double weapon. Use the second damage figure given for the double weapon's extra attack. Table: Tiny and Large Weapon Damage gives weapon damage values for Tiny and Large weapons. The possible difference in that Small or Tiny category on the table might be it...it's described as Small in the description, then labeled Tiny.... *which is it?* Or is it somehow referencing something completely different, on a different table?
Only the last sentence in that paragraph deals with Table: Tiny and Large Weapon Damage. All the others are referring to Table: Weapons, which, you will note, is the one with “Dmg (S)” and “Dmg (M)”. Why they haven't added a Small column to the on-line version of Table: Tiny and Large Weapon Damage, I have no idea.
It would probably help if they added that, yes...
So you'd say that the line about Small/Medium for damage is a reference to the Table:Weapons? That would be both reasonable and sensible to interpret...
Still doesn't answer that little bit of confusion I've got over here, but then again, all this has me considering replicating what that player was wanting to do, and going for rather large sword shennanigans with Vital Strike, now that our current campaign is wrapping up this coming week, and I'll be a player in this coming adventure.
You can also look at the chart for Improved natural weapon feat for a slightly simplified set of scales for the increase in damage dice as size goes up. I tend to either use it, or the enlarge person spell's chart for ease's sake.
I'd assume that your beast totem claws can increase in size. So they would do 1d8 damage while you are enlarged. They will do 2d6 when you get the greater beast totem though since that also increase the base damage dice.
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