A PFS good deed


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Grand Lodge 2/5

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My Sunday PFS game at the FLGS only had only two tables today. We ended up maxing out at seven players each. We have a lot high school and junior high kids that normally join us which is great for the hobby.

About a 1/2 hour in one of the Jr. High kids shows up. I explained to him as nicely as I could that both tables were full and we don't have any more GMs available to start a new table. I apologized and while he understood he was very disappointed and was bravely trying to hide his tears. We all felt really bad, when one of the only adults at the table I was GMing (who's daughter was also playing) offered the kid his seat. It was really awesome. The kid had a great time.

I have two question:

1.) I would love to give the guy who gave up his seat a chronicle sheet boon but I didn't have one. Does anyone have an extra one that they could donate? I would happily send you his contact info to forward it.

2.) Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do in case this happens again? I'm personally thinking of offering to let the kid GM in my stead, coaching him through it.

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I would suggest having a healthy pool of GMs that would be willing to step up and GM if you have that many RSVP's. That's assuming you do have some way that people can sign up in advance so that you know how many players you have to plan for. Two tables of 7 plus the GMs means you had 16 people present. You can make that work with 2 tables of 4, one table of 5, plus the 3 GMs. If you did this, you would have plenty more room and all it takes is for just one of the 14 other people that signed up to step up and GM. This is something I do on occasion. I'm sure you can find someone to help you out.

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/5

What Robert said. If space and personnel allows, plan for three tables, and drop down to two if turnout is lower than expected.

Grand Lodge 4/5

What a great guy!

5/5

I love hearing stories like this. It shows what a great community has grown around Pathfinder Society.

I second the suggestion that you try to foster more GMs in your area. It sounds like you have a fairly large player base, which means lots of potential GMs. Ask three or four of your regular players to have a low level scenario in their pocket ready to run. If they've GMed before, it could be one that they've already run, necessitating less prep time.

I don't know where you are, but you might want to consider talking to your nearest Venture Officer for assistance with your event.

Grand Lodge 4/5

I really hope this wasn't the Bookery. I thought they had it covered so I took off.

Liberty's Edge 2/5 *

This is why I love the Pregens. I had this happen yesterday when I was running the Sanos Abduction. We use a combination of Warhorn and furious last minute Facebook posting to get out our information on games. I had a guy turn up on time but without his 1 chronicle old character sheet. He had played Pathfinder before but was a PFS newbie. I make sure I always carry around my laminated 1,4 and 7's just for these occasions. So I ended up with 5 players playing at 3-4.

I can't say Im a big a fan of the NPC codex versions however.

Grand Lodge 2/5

It was in Illinois. It normally isn't a problem. The guy who runs everything was on a family vacation. Usually if we ever need another table one of his sons runs. I just was seeing how community handles these issues.

Liberty's Edge 4/5

I would not go with #1 cause he did not play it. It was nice that he gave up his seat, and the joy of helping someone else.

#2 is a real good way to go. That way they learn more of GMing and may step up later to do so on there own.

Grand Lodge 5/5 5/5

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Encouraging a pool of GMs is the way to go. I am fortunate enough to be in an area where I have a good number of people willing to GM, but there are things you can do to make it better. I usually have things ready for when when someone makes a comment that they would maybe like to GM sometime. I grab a copy of a scenario that I have already run and let them borrow it. I let them prepare it on their own time with the agreement that they will have it ready for emergencies. You can ask them which scenario they would be interested in running, or maybe offer the one you just finished running so they can get GM credit also. There are many lists of scenarios on these forums that are good for first time GMs.

As far as the guy who gave up his seat, I would probably have offered him a choice of whether to take the chronicle sheet or not. Give him the option of replaying the scenario for credit at some later point. That can be more important to some people. I'd also consider grabbing a convention boon that I havent used and offer it to him if I have any.

Selfless behavior like this is to be encouraged. Those kids seeing him being rewarded for his selfless behavior will go a long way to creating the kind of group that we all want to have.

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Matthew Smith wrote:

I'd also consider grabbing a convention boon that I havent used and offer it to him if I have any.

Selfless behavior like this is to be encouraged. Those kids seeing him being rewarded for his selfless behavior will go a long way to creating the kind of group that we all want to have.

I believe that is what the OP is trying to do, he just doesn't have a convention boon and is hoping someone who has extras will help him with the reward in lieu of giving the actual chronicle sheet for the scenario.

Grand Lodge 5/5

Kegan, I have one. PM an address to send it to and I'll get it in the mail today.

Grand Lodge 5/5

Send an email to Mike Brock. I bet he might be able to come up with something if it all checks out.

Grand Lodge 5/5 5/5

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NOG the Demoralizer wrote:
Matthew Smith wrote:

I'd also consider grabbing a convention boon that I havent used and offer it to him if I have any.

Selfless behavior like this is to be encouraged. Those kids seeing him being rewarded for his selfless behavior will go a long way to creating the kind of group that we all want to have.

I believe that is what the OP is trying to do, he just doesn't have a convention boon and is hoping someone who has extras will help him with the reward in lieu of giving the actual chronicle sheet for the scenario.

I read his message too fast, and I apologize. I also thought to offer one, but I am out right now because I tend to give them away to my players in similar circumstances and I was a victim of bad luck not getting any at Origins this year. That said, if he had played far enough into the scenario I would still consider offering him the chronicle sheet for it. Don's idea of emailing Mike Brock is a very good idea.

Silver Crusade 4/5

Kegan Stormsmile wrote:
It was in Illinois. It normally isn't a problem. The guy who runs everything was on a family vacation. Usually if we ever need another table one of his sons runs. I just was seeing how community handles these issues.

Heh. I thought the description sounded familiar when I read the first post - 2 full tables, lots of younger players. I was the GM at the second table at this one.

Because I was busy running my own table, I hadn't even realized there was this drama going on with a late player over at your table. Since I already had 7 players, though, not much I could have done to help, like you said.

I don't know when I'm going to be back at that store again next. Since it's kind of a trek for me, and there are closer places for me to play, I'm likely to only go there about once a month, at the most. But are you going to be at the other store tonight where I know we both play? I actually have a boon I picked up at a convention that I'm not using, so I can give it to you to give to that guy as a reward for his good sportsmanship. I had hoped to trade it away for a different boon I really want for one of my PCs, but I haven't had any takers on the boon trading thread, so I'm ready to give up on that. This seems like a worthy cause for me to donate the boon.


And I was a player at Fromper’s table. To be honest, I didn’t even know what was happening at your table otherwise I would have given up my seat or given you a boon at the time.

If you don’t meet up with Fromper at the other store, I have a racial boon I can give away. I don’t remember the name of it, but it has the Kitsune, as well as a couple other racial options on it.

I know you won’t be at the store next week and I will be at PaizoCon the following week. Again, if it doesn’t work out with Fromper’s boon, let me know and I can give my boon to our store coordinator (on vacation right now) this Sunday and he can pass it off to you on PaizoCon Sunday.

Grand Lodge 2/5

Thank you everyone for the boon donations. I've forwarded his email to someone who PM'd me. Hopefully he will get an email later this week.

Grand Lodge 5/5

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Robert A Matthews wrote:
I would suggest having a healthy pool of GMs that would be willing to step up and GM if you have that many RSVP's.

That is an easy answer to give, but fostering and maintaining a healthy pool of GMs is in fact the issue at the core of all organized play endeavours.

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