Bladed Belt


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Bladed Belt:
Rather than being made of one continuous line
of material, this belt consists of many bits of
tanned leather joined together by thick metal
studs. On command, the belt’s wearer can
transform the belt into a single masterwork
slashing and/or piercing melee weapon of her
choice. As long as she is holding the weapon, she can also revert
it back to belt form with a command. Furthermore, the belt
can be enchanted like a piercing and slashing melee weapon,
using the cost of the belt as the cost of the masterwork item.

When the belt is in weapon form does it still take up the belt slot?


No.


I would say no, because you would have to be wielding it instead.


Yes
To be used, the bladed belt must use the belt slot. If you use another belt, the magic of the belt is no more active, because "not worn", so it reverts to a belt in your hands.
It is not because it transforms into a weapon that it frees your slot: it keeps on to count as your belt slot.
It's magic!!!


I know I'm going to get an answer along the lines of "Uh, dire flail?", but I have to ask...

Does anyone else think that a bladed belt seems like a really bad idea?


Doomed Hero wrote:

I know I'm going to get an answer along the lines of "Uh, dire flail?", but I have to ask...

Does anyone else think that a bladed belt seems like a really bad idea?

I don't think so.

You've always the option to add a new magic ability on your belt
adding new abilities

It's costly but possible to add power of "belt of physical perfection", or other like that, to this Bladed Belt.
And "the belt can be enchanted like a piercing and slashing melee weapon", so you can have the weapon of your choice among slashing & piercing weapons and you need to enchant just one time.

You have a weapon discreet which can change following your need. For instance, it may be interesting to have a longspear +2 with reach, and after a scimitar +2 with your shield.
And if you play a city-campaign, it's far more discreet to have a belt than your big greataxe on your back.


When it is in weapon form it is no longer worn as a belt. This means if it has other abilities, like Physical Perfection, they won't function while you're wielding it as a weapon. Similarly, the weapon enhancements have no effect when it's in belt form (For instance, you can't paddle a ghost with it or vorpal someone's head off.)

I see nothing wrong with putting on a separate magical belt while the Bladed Belt is in weapon form. As far as I can see, turning the weapon back into belt form doesn't necessarily place it back on your body, just leaves you holding a belt you have to spend a move action putting back on.


Pizza Lord wrote:
As far as I can see, turning the weapon back into belt form doesn't necessarily place it back on your body, just leaves you holding a belt you have to spend a move action putting back on.

Speaking as someone who has ever put a belt on at all, I don't think it would be a move action. I don't think there's any way I could put a belt on in 6 seconds, never mind doing it while I was also punching a dude in the face or jogging 30 feet.


In truth, you could require two free hands, or make it take a full round. Not all belts have to be threaded through belt loops. Some are just wide bands, similar to girdles. That's not really the point of the post though.

Although it does say you must be the belt's wearer, (ie. wearing the belt) to use its power again, so I suppose in a few rare cases it might come into play if you're attacked again before putting the belt back on after turning it back into clothing from a weapon.


I do agree with pizza lord's take. It is worn until you turn it into a weapon, at which point you are wielding it, when it turns back, you are now holding a belt you have to put back on.


I think this magic item is perhaps a good idea on paper, but haven't be tested enough, so has been too vaguely worded.

Just look on "transformative" weapon ability and notice the differences...

Perhaps it will be better if its creator explains us what he wanted to do.

Waiting this time, it's another item i will put in the stasis's box.


I don't really see anything confusing about what the item does. It seems pretty straight-forward to me. Determining how long it takes to put a belt on or the requirements thereof is not really a failing of the item.

As for transformative and how it compares to the belt or the discussion, I'm not seeing how that applies. The belt can conceal the fact that you're armed and can become any MW slashing/piercing weapon. The transformative weapon will always look like a weapon and be the same size with the same abilities. A medium-sized transformative +1 longsword can be any melee weapon of the same equivalent size while keeping its abilities. They seem similar, but I don't see what you're troubled by. They can each suit different styles and situations.


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The "anything confusing" is that it occupies the belt slot and "can transform the belt into a single masterwork slashing and/or piercing melee weapon of her choice".
Sure, 1 standard action to transform and 1 standard action to revert.

But,
1) when it is transformed in a weapon, does or doesn't occupy the belt slot?

a) it goes on to occupy the slot (i think so): you cannot use of another belt, except if you add new abilities to your belt.
But, you can argue that as the belt is transformed, the new abilities don't work then...

b) it doesn't occupy belt slot when transformed (which is valid): then you can have another belt which functions.
But i ask myself if this is the intent of creator...
It is just as a more powerful transformative weapon which costs less than a weapon with transformative added.
Sure, you should have the belt slot free to transform your weapon back in a belt, but someone could argue that if the blet slot is occupied, the other belt ceases to function when you use the power of the bladed belt (i.e transformation belt/weapon), so when you revert your weapon in belt, your other belt ceases to function.

2) There doesn't appear to be a restriction on weapon type, designation, or size, except slashing/piercing melee.

The Bladed Belt seems to be too advantageous for the price and requirements necessary to make it(if compared to "transformative"). And the fact that it's a belt is just to explain the low price...

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Ok, threadromancy here...

What does the thing do?

as I've read "On command, the belt’s wearer can transform the belt into a single masterwork slashing and/or piercing melee weapon of her choice" means the belt transforms into one weapon of choice. So a bladed belt scorpion whip always becomes a scorpion whip. but in a recent scenario it said "The statblock assumes she changes it into a great axe."

So is it that the belt can change into a longsword and a spear and a whip, but can't make, say, two kukuries?

Scarab Sages

Correct. Although it could make a double axe, hook hammer, urgosh, or the like.

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