Word of Recall - How does this work for a spontaneous caster?


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"Word of Recall

School conjuration (teleportation); Level cleric/oracle 6, druid 8
CASTING

Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V
EFFECT

Range unlimited
Target you and touched objects or other willing creatures
Duration instantaneous
Saving Throw none or Will negates (harmless, object); Spell Resistance no or yes (harmless, object)

DESCRIPTION

Word of recall teleports you instantly back to your sanctuary when the word is uttered. You must designate the sanctuary when you prepare the spell, and it must be a very familiar place. The actual point of arrival is a designated area no larger than 10 feet by 10 feet. You can be transported any distance within a plane but cannot travel between planes. You can transport, in addition to yourself, any objects you carry, as long as their weight doesn't exceed your maximum load. You may also bring one additional willing Medium or smaller creature (carrying gear or objects up to its maximum load) or its equivalent per three caster levels. A Large creature counts as two Medium creatures, a Huge creature counts as two Large creatures, and so forth. All creatures to be transported must be in contact with one another, and at least one of those creatures must be in contact with you. Exceeding this limit causes the spell to fail."

"You must designate the sanctuary when you prepare the spell, and it must be a very familiar place."

So if I am an Oracle, and take this spell, what exactly does this mean?

The Exchange

Since the Oracle was introduced after WoR, it's no surprise that this little hiccup has come up. Unless and until errata are published, I would say that the safest way to judge this would be that the spell defaults to the last location at which you recovered your daily spells; but other GMs might rule that this is a "Cleric only" spell because it requires an action to be taken during the preparation of the spell - barring some feat that allows you to 'prepare' the spell: I vaguely recall that there is one.


In other words... Get with your DM. And Designate were the "word of recall" spell will dump you ahead of time.


I would say an oracle with word of recall would have to designate a sanctuary when they regain their spell slots.

Most likely the oracle would keep the same location as the sanctuary every day, so after the first statement of where the sanctuary would be, I imagine an actual statement would only occur if the oracle changes their chosen sanctuary location.


I guess the alternative approach would be to consider the spell "prepared" when you learn it as a known spell -- which would mean that it is more difficult or perhaps impossible for an oracle to change the sanctuary designated for this spell. I guess you could also be considered to be "preparing" your spells each time you gain a level.


It really isn't important, but I thought of something else.

If you have a scroll of Word of Recall, or have some item, perhaps a staff that can cast it...

Where exactly do you go?

That spell has been around a while. I don't think I have ever seen a scroll or an item with this on it, and I've gamed a long time.

Oh well, things have gone ok I guess, so no point in worrying about it.

Might be a plot hook somewhere with this angle though.


This is definitely a question for individual GMs. Me, I'd be a little more generous about it than some, but it should probably require some small effort.

I would rule that the Oracle has to perform a small ritual to designate the sanctuary for their word of recall: Say, for the length of the hour it takes a regular cleric to prepare their spells. This means they have to take the time at some point, but it's still usable. If an Oracle wants to use one of their precious spells known on this, it only seems fair to let them use it in a reasonable manner.


sunbeam wrote:

It really isn't important, but I thought of something else.

If you have a scroll of Word of Recall, or have some item, perhaps a staff that can cast it...

Where exactly do you go?

That spell has been around a while. I don't think I have ever seen a scroll or an item with this on it, and I've gamed a long time.

Oh well, things have gone ok I guess, so no point in worrying about it.

Might be a plot hook somewhere with this angle though.

on that same note:

If the scroll location is determined by the creator when it is scribed, could you have scrolls that go to different locations? Also, could you make scrolls with different locations over time?

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
sunbeam wrote:

It really isn't important, but I thought of something else.

If you have a scroll of Word of Recall, or have some item, perhaps a staff that can cast it...

Where exactly do you go?

That spell has been around a while. I don't think I have ever seen a scroll or an item with this on it, and I've gamed a long time.

Oh well, things have gone ok I guess, so no point in worrying about it.

Might be a plot hook somewhere with this angle though.

The scroll is an easy one. The designated point of return is incorporated into the scroll itself.

For that matter, the same applies to the staff, which may explain why it's not a popular staff choice for traveling clerics, unless they want a reliable means of return to a home temple.

For my book,it's a pretty lousy choice for a spontaneous caster, as is any spell that you'd cast only once in a blue moon. You're much better off getting a scroll.

Silver Crusade

IIRC, earlier editions of the game had the spell return you to a previously ritually prepared sanctum.


How does the castingtime work for this spell? The duration is instantaneously and the description is “teleports instantly”. But casting time is 1 standard action. Does it cost 1 standard action to “prepare” the spell and then when the chosen word is recalled you teleport instantly. Or does it cost 1 standard action to cast the spell Word of Recall, and so, you’ll be teleported after 1 standard action to cast the spell.


Gustaaf D. Goud wrote:
How does the castingtime work for this spell? The duration is instantaneously and the description is “teleports instantly”. But casting time is 1 standard action. Does it cost 1 standard action to “prepare” the spell and then when the chosen word is recalled you teleport instantly. Or does it cost 1 standard action to cast the spell Word of Recall, and so, you’ll be teleported after 1 standard action to cast the spell.

I’ll start by answering your question. It is a standard action to CAST, so your later understanding of it.

This topic is 9.5 years old, you really should have just made a new topic for your question.

The Exchange

Gustaaf D. Goud wrote:
How does the castingtime work for this spell? The duration is instantaneously and the description is “teleports instantly”. But casting time is 1 standard action. Does it cost 1 standard action to “prepare” the spell and then when the chosen word is recalled you teleport instantly. Or does it cost 1 standard action to cast the spell Word of Recall, and so, you’ll be teleported after 1 standard action to cast the spell.

You prepare the spell during your normal daily prayers (if you are a cleric). When you cast it, it casts just like teleport. A standard action to cast, then the effect happens.

Ordinarily I’d make some sarcastic response to Chell like “Thank you for using an existing thread instead of cluttering up the boards with new threads.” But this is actually a different topic than the original thread so, yeah, it should have been a new post.


Belafon wrote:
Gustaaf D. Goud wrote:
How does the castingtime work for this spell? The duration is instantaneously and the description is “teleports instantly”. But casting time is 1 standard action. Does it cost 1 standard action to “prepare” the spell and then when the chosen word is recalled you teleport instantly. Or does it cost 1 standard action to cast the spell Word of Recall, and so, you’ll be teleported after 1 standard action to cast the spell.

You prepare the spell during your normal daily prayers (if you are a cleric). When you cast it, it casts just like teleport. A standard action to cast, then the effect happens.

Ordinarily I’d make some sarcastic response to Chell like “Thank you for using an existing thread instead of cluttering up the boards with new threads.” But this is actually a different topic than the original thread so, yeah, it should have been a new post.

Thanks !


Chell Raighn wrote:
Gustaaf D. Goud wrote:
How does the castingtime work for this spell? The duration is instantaneously and the description is “teleports instantly”. But casting time is 1 standard action. Does it cost 1 standard action to “prepare” the spell and then when the chosen word is recalled you teleport instantly. Or does it cost 1 standard action to cast the spell Word of Recall, and so, you’ll be teleported after 1 standard action to cast the spell.

I’ll start by answering your question. It is a standard action to CAST, so your later understanding of it.

This topic is 9.5 years old, you really should have just made a new topic for your question.

Thanks, yeah… I should… didn’t saw the topic was this old

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