Hello, my pathfinder group and I have come to an argument of ruling concerning the enlarge person spell.
When under the effects of an enlarge person spell, does your defecate remain large? Or does the spell wear off as soon as it passes?
Or does every turd you ever made become large under effects of enlarge person?
Assuming you're not s@@~ting me...
The poop would wear off as soon as it passes.
Any enlarged item that leaves an enlarged creature's possession (including a projectile or thrown weapon) instantly returns to its normal size. This means that thrown and projectile weapons deal their normal damage. Magical properties of enlarged items are not increased by this spell.
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... Ha...
Ok, I'll bite. If you presume that the excretions of an animal are not an actual property of that animal, which is to say, it's not part of the systems that make you, you. It's not an organ for sure, then I don't imagine why it would expand. It's not equipment, it's not part of you. Since it's neither of those, it has no reason to be affected at all any more than some dirt someone threw on you before you expanded.
I'm not sure I even want to know why this came up. Unless you have a poo-flinging monkey companion.
...actualy, haha.
We have a Barbarain who is under the effects of an enlarge person enchanted with permanency.
It just kinda came up one day.I guess getting dispelled would kinda suck.
Talk about constipation.
The spell description as Odraude quoted would seem to answer the question - because the poop has left the enlarged creature's possession, it reverts to its original size. This would likewise suggest that any poop in the creature's intestine would enlarge with the spell, just as any other item he is carrying/wearing. Whether it is a "property" of the creature does not matter, since the spell affects whatever he is carrying ("possessing"), and somebody with a poop on deck can easily be said to be "carrying" that poop.
My wife asked the converse: Can you eat enough while so enlarged as to have to poop out a large enough turd that it would stay large after the spell wore off?
I would say that it is relative. Any food you are picking up when ensorcelled grows large anyway, so fits in your intestine, but then shrinks back to normal in your intestine when the spell wears off. HOWEVER, being larger, you can pick up amounts of food larger than you normally could (which would also enlarge). So you conceivably could pack more food in than normal, and you probably would have some stomach discomfort when you shrank back to size, and yes, that might result in a larger-than-normal poop later, but probably nothing beyond what a large man might expect the day after a large meal.
Hello, my pathfinder group and I have come to an argument of ruling concerning the enlarge person spell.
When under the effects of an enlarge person spell, does your defecate remain large? Or does the spell wear off as soon as it passes?
Or does every turd you ever made become large under effects of enlarge person?
Ok, let's make sure the facts are correct. It is my character under question. I was granted a wish and became a large size character. We used enlarge person as a template. I am not under a spell. The main question is when I'm wearing my gloves of reduce person and take a crap, when it comes out is it proportionate to the size I'm currently in or does it get large since my usual size is large.
In the name of Sterculius, man! For the sake of your friends you game with, assume that it is whatever it needs be to not bear mention at the table.
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I really hate that I burned brain cells for this but....
You used a wish to become a large humanoid so your excrement would be large and stay large. Using a Reduce Person effect ( Any reduced item that leaves the reduced creature's possession (including a projectile or thrown weapon) instantly returns to its normal size. This means that thrown weapons deal their normal damage (projectiles deal damage based on the size of the weapon that fired them) would make your excrement, once it is out of your pc, return to normal size which for you is large since you are now a naturally large creature.
edit: so when you stay at the inn in medium size form make sure you request a larger chamber pot or you may have some overflow issues....
dammit.
Huh... well there's this from reduce person
Melee and projectile weapons deal less damage. Other magical properties are not affected by this spell. Any reduced item that leaves the reduced creature's possession (including a projectile or thrown weapon) instantly returns to its normal size. This means that thrown weapons deal their normal damage (projectiles deal damage based on the size of the weapon that fired them).
I don't know why in heavens it's such as issue lol. But it's freakin hilarious!
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I would rule that his poos are large because it's funnier that way.
Lets say a stone giant is reduced to medium size.
Does the poop become large as its leaving the sphincter? Or does it wait until its finished coiling out?
This is a serious question.
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I agree with Bruunwald.
If the spell is cast, the contents of the target enlarge including food and wear off if "dropped".
If the target is already enlarged then anything added after the spell would not be subject to size changing after being dropped. If the character picked-up new equipment it would not resize, not being the target of the spell (they need to buy large-sized armour and weaponry).
So, by extension, they are magically a large-sized creature and likely need to consume eight times the food of a normal person. And if subject to a dispel magic spell it might be painful, depending on how recently they had eaten.
Poop can be watery but is fairly solid, so it might compress. And the bowel is large and stretch so it might expand to fill. Water does not compress, so the bladder would be the real issue.
There would likely be sudden explosive... release.
He should eat many small meals and go often.
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I'd suggest you just outhouse rule it.
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What if I fling poo at someone who is enlarged? Are they now carrying that poo and so it grows if it sticks to them?
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Can I use Deadly Aim with poop or is it considered a touch attack?
Are they considered carrying an item if its on their chest?
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Weapon Focus (Poop)
You know, amidst all the paladin alignment threads, the fighter/caster threads, and the player entitlement/dick GM threads, it's nice to just sit back and enjoy some childish poop jokes to liven up a forum that simply takes itself too seriously. We really need to do this more often. It's pretty excrement... erm, I mean, excellent.
Doody.
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So, by extension, they are magically a large-sized creature and likely need to consume eight times the food of a normal person.Not really. They're only magically enlarged; that doesn't increase the metabolism. Even though they should have the stride of a Large creature, their movement speed stays the same; therefore they lack the metabolism that goes along with the increased bulk and can't even take a full stride because of low energy. Therefore, they still have the same metabolism and food requirement as when they are their original size. It would also apply to a creature subjected to Reduce Person, but in reverse. They'd eat as if they were their original size.
So someone with Reduce Person would have to eat their (new) body weight in food each day?
Even if they don't have to eat eight times as much they might want to. 1/8th your regular food intake isn't very filling.
Here's a disturbing scenario for this situation:
You enlarge yourself and then swallow a giant ruby to "reacquire" later. If the spell wears off and you return to normal size, is the ruby still large so you have to pass it like a football i.e. Randy Marsh?
Some decomposed food for thought.
The possibilities for an enlarged drug mule....!
Weapon Focus (Poop)
Throw Anything feat would go well with that. <grins>
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I'd suggest you just outhouse rule it.
*slow clap*
So let's say something is on fire. Could the enlarged person pee on it and put it out because their urine is enlarged? Does the urine shrink once it exits their person, or does the stream have to break? What happens if you cross the streams?
Im on the loo when reading this and loled realy hard!!!
It would seem that anything that isn't actually "you", when seperated from you reduces to it's normal size. So upon the effect of being enlarged, anything you passed through your system, once seperated from you, would reduce to it's normal size.
However, this character is permanently enlarged, right? Does this affect the amount of food he has to eat to fuel this enlarged body. Common law of conservation of matter would indicate that if a lot of food goes in, a lot of waste is coming out. So once you've had some meals appropriate for an enlarged character, you'll have bowell movements appropriate for one as well (what an ironic use of 'appropriate').