Not that I mind Tennant starring (can never have enough Tennant), but why in the world would he be the star of the special?
Not that I mind Tennant starring (can never have enough Tennant), but why in the world would he be the star of the special?
He's starring in it, but he's not the only star. As the article points out, he and Billie Piper will be appearing alongside Matt Smith and Jenna-Louise Coleman. What this is, is confirmation of a multi-Doctor story like "The Three Doctors", "The Five Doctors", and "The Two Doctors".
Oh. I thought they confirmed that in like January.
While fans have discussed endlessly how much they'd like there to be a multi-Doctor story for the anniversary, this is the first confirmation that it's actually happening.
I also thought "Oh no! Not Rose again! But on reflection the first year of DT is probably the best era of the Tenth to have him cross paths with the Eleventh. He's in full on cheery mode having freshly regenerated from gloomy moody Ninth. He's not pining for Rose, dwelling on her return nor getting morbid over his own forthcoming death of personality.
This is assuming that Rose is to be the Tenth's companion in the special (and not the Ninth's, Chris Eccleston yet to be announced).
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Mark
I assumed they'd be playing half-Donna-Doctor and Rose from Pete's World rather than crossing timestreams. That send-off was the ideal set-up for future guest-star opportunities.
That's certainly a possibility. If there are no other Doctors in it, I'd say it's probably the case that it's the Pete's World Doctor and Rose. However, if it turns out there are other Doctors in it, too, then I'd say it's more likely Tennant is playing the actual tenth Doctor from the time that Rose was travelling with him.
I would certainly personally prefer 9+Rose and 10+Donna alongside 11+whichever incarnation of Oswin if given the option, as I'd kill to have Donna back in the show even for just one episode, Eccleston would be cool as hell to see return, and pairing 10 with Martha will just lead to more post-Rose angst.
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I would certainly personally prefer 9+Rose and 10+Donna alongside 11+whichever incarnation of Oswin if given the option, as I'd kill to have Donna back in the show even for just one episode, Eccleston would be cool as hell to see return, and pairing 10 with Martha will just lead to more post-Rose angst.
Agreed!
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Mark
Not even considering any of the earlier Doctors, then? Paul McGann's still around, as well as Colin Baker, Sylvester McCoy, Peter Davison....
That remains to be seen. They've announced Tennant, but that doesn't necessarily exclude any of the others.
Not even considering any of the earlier Doctors, then? Paul McGann's still around, as well as Colin Baker, Sylvester McCoy, Peter Davison....
They're appearing in a series of radio/audio dramas. However, the problem is that those guys have aged. If they appeared on TV, there'd have to be a timey-wimey explanation as for why they've aged when they shouldn't have, and that just complicates everything needlessly. Peter Davison came back for a cameo during Tennant's run (during a TV charity thing) and they had to devote several moments of that to a intricate explanation of why the Fifth Doctor looked 25 years older than when he regenerated. And Davison has actually aged very well, whilst Colin Baker is now twice the size he was when he was on the show, which is not really a problem you can broach tactfully.
You can get away with bringing back Ecclestone (who's eight years older, but still looks pretty much the same), Tennant (especially if it's the alterno-universe human Doctor, who is aging the same as everyone else) and Paul McGann. McGann is 17 years older than when he was on the show, but they can explain that as the Eighth Doctor living for centuries after his appearance in the TV movie and before his regeneration during the Time War. I think it's impractical to bring back any of the older Doctors.
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McGann is 17 years older than when he was on the show, but they can explain that as the Eighth Doctor living for centuries after his appearance in the TV movie and before his regeneration during the Time War. I think it's impractical to bring back any of the older Doctors.
Actually, they can bring back Paul McGann easily- one of the Big Finish audio dramas had a new picture of him included, and he had his real hair (not the wig he had in the movie.)
More interestingly, he's no longer wearing the Wild Bill Hickok costume from the TV movie. He's wearing what looks like the Ninth Doctor's jacket and slacks.
(The picture in question is here: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbbwaaglao1qha1hwo1_500.jpg)
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so much YES! David Tennant is so great as the Doctor he can make even Moffat's lines sound good! can't wait to see that radiant smile again. Matt Smith comes NOWEHERE close to Tennant. 10th doctor for the win (would have loved to have 9 hop over for a bit too, if at all possible).
I don't hate Rose with a passion as some here seem to, she is a fine companion. Thankfuly we don't have to endure Amy anymore.
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so much YES! David Tennant is so great as the Doctor he can make even Moffat's lines sound good! can't wait to see that radiant smile again. Matt Smith comes NOWEHERE close to Tennant. 10th doctor for the win (would have loved to have 9 hop over for a bit too, if at all possible).
I don't hate Rose with a passion as some here seem to, she is a fine companion. Thankfuly we don't have to endure Amy anymore.
There's just so much wrong with this entire post...
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Matt Smith comes NOWEHERE close to Tennant. 10th doctor for the win (would have loved to have 9 hop over for a bit too, if at all possible).
Highly debatable.
I'm a HUGE Tennant fan, but Smith's done a damn fine job as Doctor.
Thankfuly we don't have to endure Amy anymore.
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There's always going to be someone with a hate for any of the Doctor's companions, as well as any Doctor. Fans hate a lot of things, but change is generally at the top of their lists.Matt Smith comes NOWEHERE close to Tennant. 10th doctor for the win (would have loved to have 9 hop over for a bit too, if at all possible).Highly debatable.
I'm a HUGE Tennant fan, but Smith's done a damn fine job as Doctor.
Thankfuly we don't have to endure Amy anymore.Wat
Holy Christ and Sacred Buddha, people can become condescending. You know nearly nothing about me yet are quick to accuse me as being a very immature sort of person. That is, by itself, immature.
Amy was a horrible companion because she had absolutely no character traits beside "witty and flirty". As a comparison, Clara is much better from what I've seen so far.Unlike doctor 10, who went around the place calling people "fantastic", being a champion of peace and giving EVERYONE a second chance, doctor 11 goes around calling people "stupid potatoes" because they are ugly, is socially ignorant, sulking away for hundreds of years and swearing he's never protecting anyone ever again, and being very aggressive for no reason and without trying to understand who he is fighting and why (watch the episode where he confronts the silence. Without knowing anything about that race or it's motivations for conquering Earth, doctor 11 tricks the aliens into ordering humans to kill them on sight. Yeah).
Now call me silly if you like, but I much prefer it the way Tennant was. For me, the doctor was all about a departure from the usual grittiness and violence I'm used to reading and watching. I wanted to see a show about a godlike immortal who found endless joy in the tiniest of things, whose wanderlust NEVER ends, who can find a place in his heart to love anyone. Doctor 9 was this, only with the trauma of a war haunting him. Doctor 10 was EXACTLY this, and that was very good for me. Doctor 11 is nowhere near this (did you notice how, in the moffat seasons, the focus shifted dramatically from the "travel" theme of earlier seasons, and instead the stories got more personal, and less about exploration? that can be alright with you but I much prefer it the other way around).
Now you may disagree with everything I say, but please do so respectfully. Don't just go around assuming I'm stupid. I put a lot of thought into shows I like and analyze them as I go. I happen to like the themes of 10's year MUCH more than those of 11's, and I also prefer tennant to smith. Doesn't make me into anything other than a guy who disagrees with you.
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FLuff reason for aging.
Whatever MacGuffin has brought the 11 together has affected his past selves. (This also could lead to Sean Pertwee playing Three and one of the Troughton clan playing Two.) :-)
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*sigh*
Time to add "Doctor Who threads" to the list of things on Paizo I hide as soon as they pop up.
I just hope the 50th anniversary episode features a number of nods to the older shows and isn't just a new series "best of". Doctors #7 and #8 would be great to see along with one or two of the older companions - in particular any of those left behind on Earth to grow older.
I agree, Orthos. I like Ten and Eleven. I also like Rose and Amy. I must be some sort of abomination ; _ ;
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I like Rose and Amy too. But my favorite was Donna. I know she was not popular as a companion over in England, because too many associated her with her comedy show. But Catherine Tate is a fine actress. Many great comedians are. Some of my favorite Tennant Doctor Who episodes was with Tate. I noticed she was completely ignored in the special about the Companions. Sad!
As far as Matt Smith goes. He has proven to me to be a fine Doctor, at least as good as Tennant.
EDIT: From what I read about the 50th Anniversary show, it will be a shout out to the next 50 years more so than a look back over the last 50 years.
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I liked Donna as well. In some ways, she reminded me of Sarah Jane. More importantly while she served the job of exposition, she *also* grew as a character, without being the center of the universe.
Donna represented something that you would see in Classic Who, and in SJA, that travelling with the Doctor may have kept his moral compass aligned, but it made the companions better people. Turlough being the largest example in mind, but Ace, Leelah, Romana, Tegan and even PEri all come to mind.
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If the Doctor is the point-of-view character, he's written as more likable than if the companion is the point-of-view character.
One decision, more or less consciously, is that for the last two and a half years Amy Pond has been the point-of-view character. The Doctor is consequently more mysterious and sort of intimidating. Lord Snow, I'd disagree with your analysis in that I see Nine in the same lens. We're being re-introduced to the Doctor after the long hiatus, Rose Tyler is the point-of-view character, and Nine is aloof and rough. (You can blame that on the Time War in-character, but that doesn't change the fact that the character grows in sympathy and heals in a way he couldn't do if there weren't a sympathetic companion.)
Clara is herself a mystery, so she can't be the point-of-view character. Eleven will grow more likable as he has to shoulder that job.
I absolutely disliked Donna. Donna was the worst companion ever. SHE was the start of the writers making the show ALL about the companion and guest starring the doctor. So she has that in common with Amy. And while Amy had a nice personality even if her writers were awful, Donna as the champion of middle aged women rubbed me the wrong way so I couldn't find anything redeeming in her character. Thankfully we are highly unlikely to ever see Donna again as I believe they ended her in a way to make sure she couldn't come back.
I agree with Joana that this will probably be about the dimensional barrier since Rose and the 10th doctor are happily adventuring just on the other side of that barrier.
I also can't figure out all the Rose hate? She was a wonderful companion. You can't blame HER for how the doctor was written after they sidelined her character.
But see Calybos I never saw the story become about Rose until the Bad Wolf stuff and that was temporary. She was a strong contributor to solving the stories but never overshadowed the doctor and she matched him very well. Martha also never was the central figure in her season (but how could she be... the story was all about how the doctor pined for Rose- Which isn't Rose's fault). But from very early on Donna and Amy became WHAT the story was all about.
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The one overriding theme of the entire RTD era seemed to be that the most thing in the universe, ever, was Rose bloody Tyler. Hell, the Doctor even spent a full year trying to give a woman an inferiority complex over her.
I kinda wish when Martha had met Rose in Journey's End, she had said "THIS is what the Doctor couldn't stop whinging on about? THIS?!?"
Thankfully we are highly unlikely to ever see Donna again as I believe they ended her in a way to make sure she couldn't come back.Yeah, they did that with Rose too. :P
Not really...
Donna will die if she attempts to return to her days with the doctor.Rose is just living in another dimension. And as we have seen when the writers want to they often pull stuff from another dimension.
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Thankfully we are highly unlikely to ever see Donna again as I believe they ended her in a way to make sure she couldn't come back.Yeah, they did that with Rose too. :PNot really...
Donna will die if she attempts to return to her days with the doctor.
Rose is just living in another dimension. And as we have seen when the writers want to they often pull stuff from another dimension.
We've already seen that Donna does NOT die, she merely passes out. And Mary Sue, er, Rose was rather obviously supposed to be shut away in the other dimension with all the ties between the dimensions cut. Both times. If anything, Donna's return would be a LOT easier to justify than yet another instance of Rose g&!$%*n Tyler popping up again.
Hopefully she can die off rather definatively (not to mention painfully) during the 50th Anniversary.
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I'd trade off any cheesy cameos by any former doctors or companions for an appearance by Carole Ann Ford. It'd easily be the best way to celebrate the 50th in my opinion...by going back to the VERY beginning, even before Barbara and Ian; and reintroducing the one companion that the Doctor has had that is the most important to him.
Keep your Rose bloody Tylers, your Jack Harknesses, your Donna Nobles, and any other Johnny-come-lately companions. I want to see Susan Foreman's reunion with her grandfather.
Wouldn't she have likely regenerated by now, though, Kthulhu? It's a fantastic idea, but I think it'd require a new actress. Then again, she could have avoided conflict and not been forced to regenerate. Wasn't the first doctor the actual doctor, in so far as he had never regenerated?
He could go back that far, but then we'd have a 72 year old Carole Ann Ford playing a young Susan Foreman? Again, we'd need a new actress for that.
Flashback regeneration scene could work, though.
Wibbly wobbly.
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If you really want to go timeywimey wibbly wobbly...
My brain hurts.
How awesome would it be if Carol Ann Ford played old Susan still living in The Dalek Invasion of Earth timeline, and as she is lying in bed dying the Doctor arrives and says "I told you someday I'd come back".
They share a few words, she dies, regenerates and becomes the new companion.
Classic Who fans would love that (I know I would).
But I think the NewWho fans would not like the new companion referring to the Doctor as "Grandfather". Especially if the regenerated Susan is the same age or older than the Doctor physically.