Overbearing GM's and Character sheets.


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3.5 Loyalist wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:

Dude.

I'd take a blank sheet, copy the descriptive info, then write 50 for every ability score, and have Death Rays in the attack section, and things like the Sword of Kas in the equipment block.

I'd like to see him continue running THAT character!

The character's manhood extends to 10 foot, granting it reach.

This is only acceptable if the character's name is Kochslap McGee.


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Reminds me of this one crazy chick I played under once who felt horses should have a third natural weapon >.<


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Sean FitzSimon wrote:
See, that's the thing. Except for the GM following the original poster to the forums (which strikes me as the most trollsy detail) I don't see a lot of his actions as creeper-status.

Since their accounts differ substantially from each other, I really don't see how him trying to put the record straight is anything strange. Or would you be happy if a former player would smear your reputation behind your back to a large RP community?

We had a few cases lately where an affronted player/GM came to the board to complain about something and then the other person of the conflict turned up, so I don't find whole thing as likely to be a troll than others do.


Well, TECHNICALLY nobody's reputation was being smeared. The post was by an anonymous person and contained anonymous complaints.


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So, it wouldn't bother you if one of your players would, anonymously, misrepresent a personal conflict in your game to this board, which makes you (although still anonymous) look like a total creepy douche?


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To be honest if said player didn't specifically identify himself or me I would probably never realize it was me to begin with lol.

I'm kind of oblivious like that sometimes...


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Okay, but say you actually did notice that the player of Bob the Fighter from your group posted a distorted horror story of your game to this board and all the regulars are making appropiately horrified noises about how terrible as a GM you are?


That's a difficult question to answer. I'd like to think I'd have the restraint to just let it go (because really... it doesn't matter) but I can't be sure that I'd be that wise in the moment.


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Quite exactly my point. ^^


He hardly came and defended his reputation. He came and confirmed he did all the things she said he did.

Anyone got more popcorn?

They haven't come back... I don't think they will be.


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Shifty wrote:
He hardly came and defended his reputation. He came and confirmed he did all the things she said he did.

I have a friend who's notoriously bad at answering text messages or emails. It's like he'll let them pile up over a month or two and then answer everything in one humongous text/email/whatever. Not always mind, sometimes he'll get back to you right away, but sometimes not.

I have, on occasion, needed to get a hold of him somewhat urgently. Perhaps I needed a question answered before an upcoming game session or something. If I hear nothing back from him, I'll wait an appropriate amount of time before nudging him again, like sending a quick "hey, you okay?" message, maybe using a different media (email instead of a text message in case he lost his phone. Again.) or, if he keeps being non-responsive I might eventually call him to hear what's up.

I admit, it's possible that he's intentionally ignoring me specifically, but I don't really have any way to know. I don't think it's unreasonable to go "uhm, you there?" if you get nothing back. If he keeps not getting back to me I will eventually let it go and just wait for the inevitable bulk response.

I don't think I'm being creepy and stalking to the guy. :p


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Shifty wrote:

He hardly came and defended his reputation. He came and confirmed he did all the things she said he did.

Anyone got more popcorn?

They haven't come back... I don't think they will be.

I think the point of contention is that she said that he "continually" came over to ask her for the character, when it happened twice in a two week period. What you find "creeper behaviour", I find not that shockingly horrifying.

The need in the first place to obtain the character sheet is a bit strange ( I'd personally just belt out the character from memory and try to remember which magic item the character had ) and the GMs style of running his game may be a bit oppressive, from her description, but if we go by what he said, he was not overly aggressive in trying to contact her.


That's all good and well, but if your slow-to-respond buddy started by sending you a 'Dear John' email and THEN avoided contact...

Lets not lose sight of the fact the GM was pretty much told thanks for the memories, and then carried out the actions in discussion.


magnuskn wrote:
I think the point of contention is that she said that he "continually" came over to ask her for the character, when it happened twice in a two week period. What you find "creeper behaviour", I find not that shockingly horrifying.

And the phone calls and the emails... which start to look more sinister when he says "you made me/brought this on yourself" as opposed to "Hey well that wasn't my intention/sorry of that seemed excessive".

And yes, needing the sheet IS strange, we call this an excuse for contact, not a reason. This isn't about a character sheet, this is about rejection.

GM dont go away mad, GM just go away..


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Um, no? According to her, they had an email exchange when she left the group and she chose to just not respond anymore when he asked for the character sheet. According to him, they had a cordial email exchange when she left the group and then he couldn't get a hold of her anymore, which was not unusual behaviour from her in the least during a period of several years. At least in how it reads to me, he was clueless that she was actively avoiding him until he found her post here on the forum.

All this could have been solved with the simple use of a Xerox machine or a scanner. ^^

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Thank you for sharing that helpful opinion.


magnuskn wrote:
So, it wouldn't bother you if one of your players would, anonymously, misrepresent a personal conflict in your game to this board, which makes you (although still anonymous) look like a total creepy douche?

Actualy that is kinda of a interesting question.

The one time I saw in my group...I kinda posted a reply that you don't bring your dirty laundry into veiw. Especialy with that GM...he is very sensitive about his rep on those boards. Though that is a little different as the GM is a regular poster. And it is annoying javing maore antagonistic poster throw it back in your face.

If a player did that to me...or a GM did about me in one of those 'dirty player threads' I probably would post the advice I usualy do...ignoring it i about me. Than approach the person and talk about it.

What would you do?


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...but you aren't, so you can't.

Another account with 1 post.

/sockpuppet.


I am inclined to agree with Shifty. While I didn't call the GM creepy at first, I did point out the need for the sheet wasn't honest. And given that... it does come across kinda creepy to keep trying to contact someone over a fake reason who is avoiding you.

On a side note I did do this once... I posted a complaint in a forum over a GM playing favorites. BUT I used my actual forum account to do it and surprisingly the GM (who I hadn't named) popped in using his real account to say yes he did play favorites and "so what?" the guy he was favoring was a long time friend and I was just some internet girl who didn't matter. Needless to say I avoided his games from that day forward.


Aranna wrote:
I am inclined to agree with Shifty. While I didn't call the GM creepy at first, I did point out the need for the sheet wasn't honest. And given that... it does come across kinda creepy to keep trying to contact someone over a fake reason who is avoiding you.

Except that, according to the GM, this person had a history of being hard to get a hold of, so the behavior wasn't unusual. I know people like that. Sometimes I'm like that myself. It doesn't always mean they don't want any further contact. I've known people who would ignore multiple contact attempts and then respond to one and be quite happy to get together. It's frustrating, but you get used to it.

And the GM tried to visit twice and it's not clear how many times he called or emailed. Nor did the player ever actually tell the GM to stop contacting her or refuse to give him a copy of the character.

I'm usually pretty much on the "Don't be creepy" side, but I don't see it here.


There are really now only two likely possibilities:

1. The GM and player (and these one-post sock puppets) are all the same troll.

2. The GM and player are both real, but one of them is making sock puppets.

Putting that aside, I do still sympathize with the possibly fictional GM. I've got one particular player who's always "not getting" my emails and "forgetting" to tell me he won't be able to attend. If I had no reason to think he wanted to avoid me, yeah, I'd keep messaging him until he responded.


Solomon Grundy want puppet made from a sock TOO!


Kobold Cleaver wrote:

There are really now only two likely possibilities:

1. The GM and player (and these one-post sock puppets) are all the same troll.

2. The GM and player are both real, but one of them is making sock puppets.

Putting that aside, I do still sympathize with the possibly fictional GM. I've got one particular player who's always "not getting" my emails and "forgetting" to tell me he won't be able to attend. If I had no reason to think he wanted to avoid me, yeah, I'd keep messaging him until he responded.

BUT the player was in contact with the GM importantly at the point they quit the game. SO is it creepy to pursue a player who already quit your game over some pretend in game reason? Even when they are clearly avoiding you (past history be damned). IF this was a GM trying to return something the player left behind (or some other valid reason) then yeah not really creepy. BUT the making up of a fake reason to get in contact? Yeah that's kinda creepy.

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