Scarred Witch Doctor


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I feel like this question is clear but just for the sake of put all doubt out I would still like to ask it. Am I to understand that the mask that the SWD's gain as a part of their class do not act like a bonded item similar one a wizard can gain? It is a familiar stuck on your face without a life of its own, so basically an empowered item close to the witches familiar.


Going from memory, It's not like a bonded item, no.

Sczarni

yeah it's a familiar without the benefit of being able to move on its own...


Just remember that extra spells known is dependent on Intelligence still.

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Cheapy wrote:
Just remember that extra spells known is dependent on Intelligence still.

"A scarred witch doctor uses Constitution instead of Intelligence when determining the highest level of spells she can cast, her spell save DCs, number of spells known at 1st level, and any effects of her hexes normally determined by her Intelligence."

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I was talking about 95% of the levels, but you're right that I should've specified the exception.


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Witches don't have "extra spells known" they get 2 per level automatically, thats independent of any stat, and can learn from scrolls and familiars, and don't have an actual max-amount of spells they can know.

You probably mean "bonus spell slots"?

I actually think that's an oversight. Everything was changed from Int to Con just bonus spells weren't? That seems rather strange if you ask me.


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Am I to understand the Scarred Witch Doctor does not gain extra spell slots for a high constitution despite everything ells being constitution based for the archetype? If this is so is there anything ells that is like this as well?


Yes, i meant spell slots. My mind was in the context of the bolded section above and it's late.

My theory is that they pointedly left that out as an attempt to 'balance' giving one of the best classes in the game SAD in the most important stat. They obviously had the effect of stats on spells known at first level in mind, and that's far more obscure than spell slots.


You should quote the ability in question.

Sczarni

and it's not like it's that hard to learn new spells...

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Although I chuckle to think of a scarred witch doctor reading a book to his mask propped up in a corner.

Grand Lodge

It could be another Witch's Familiar.

Imagine a cat, batting a mask around.

This is how he learns new spells.


Jim.DiGriz wrote:
Cheapy wrote:
Just remember that extra spells known is dependent on Intelligence still.

"A scarred witch doctor uses Constitution instead of Intelligence when determining the highest level of spells she can cast, her spell save DCs, number of spells known at 1st level, and any effects of her hexes normally determined by her Intelligence."

Link.

They need to errata that.


Constitution Dependent

A scarred witch doctor uses Constitution instead of Intelligence when determining the highest level of spells she can cast, her spell save DCs, number of spells known at 1st level, and any effects of her hexes normally determined by her Intelligence.


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prometheus's_curse wrote:

Constitution Dependent

A scarred witch doctor uses Constitution instead of Intelligence when determining the highest level of spells she can cast, her spell save DCs, number of spells known at 1st level, and any effects of her hexes normally determined by her Intelligence.

While it doesn't SPECIFICALLY say that you don't get bonus spells based on Con mod, you should, because Con has become your casting stat. I would include it under "number of spells known at 1st level" but it's really the "number of spells she can cast"... but the intent is definitely clear that Con should replace every single instance of Int when casting spells.


By the wording, you are correct. It gets you everything but your bonus spells. May be able to argue the point with your GM though since it covers basically everything else for the class.


The sage and empyreal bloodlines are worded roughly as follows:

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Bloodline Arcana: Unlike most sorcerers, whose innate magic is powered by force of personality, you use your intellect to understand and master your mystic powers. You use your Intelligence, rather than your Charisma, to determine all class features and effects relating to your sorcerer class, such as bonus spells per day, the maximum spell level you can cast, the save DCs of your spells, and the number of daily uses of your bloodline powers. You gain a +2 bonus on all Knowledge (arcana) and Spellcraft checks.

Since the scarred witch doctor lists everything it would affect other than the number of bonus spell slots you have (well, and skill points. But I'd laugh at anyone trying to argue that.) and it does not state that you use your Constitution to determine all class features and effects related to your witch class, I take it to mean that it was purposefully excluded.

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