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So I was thinking last night about what would be my favorite build concept for an incredibly cheesy character and I settled on a character that just blows the action economy out of the water.
My final build ended up being a Master Summoner with Eldritch Heritage to get a Familiar, Leadership for a Cohort (Preferably another summoner), and Improved Familiar.
I ended up playing around with this for a while and finally reached a place where I just sat back and said to myself "You are a bad person"
So what about you guys? What are your "Never in a million years" cheesiest builds?
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None. Cheese is a word used by GMs that don't like stuff.
On the other hand, I don't consider it cheese, but I really hate the Scarred Witch Doctor archetype due to using CON for casting.
It hinges on how your GM uses the Leadership feat. Some GMs will allow you get specific builds like that and others just give you a random generic NPC.
If D&D 3.5 material is allowed, take the Improved Cohort feat from Heroes of Battle after taking Leadership, and have your cohort (and his cohort, etc.) do the same. By the normal Pathfinder rules, cohorts of cohorts soon are so many levels behind their masters that they are ineffective -- but a feat that increases the maximum level of a cohort from master's level minus 2 to master's level minus 1 lets you pack in more combat effective characters into your gang.
If all you care about is getting a gang of maximum size, go for the Noble Scion prestige class. At 7th character level (2nd level in this prestige class), you get a cohort who can be up to one level below yours. Have your cohort do the same. At 15th character level (10th level in this prestige class), your cohort can be equal to your level. The maximum number of level 15+ characters you can eventually recruit is an advanced mathematical problem that I do not care to solve here and now. The problem with this approach is that all of the characters involved have 10 levels in the noble scion prestige class, which makes them quite a bit less effective in combat than more normal characters.
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So I was thinking last night about what would be my favorite build concept for an incredibly cheesy character and I settled on a character that just blows the action economy out of the water.
My final build ended up being a Master Summoner with Eldritch Heritage to get a Familiar, Leadership for a Cohort (Preferably another summoner), and Improved Familiar.
I ended up playing around with this for a while and finally reached a place where I just sat back and said to myself "You are a bad person"
So what about you guys? What are your "Never in a million years" cheesiest builds?
I have yet to get to this point. I try not to do things that I wouldn't want to DM for. :)
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I have yet to get to this point. I try not to do things that I wouldn't want to DM for. :)So I was thinking last night about what would be my favorite build concept for an incredibly cheesy character and I settled on a character that just blows the action economy out of the water.
My final build ended up being a Master Summoner with Eldritch Heritage to get a Familiar, Leadership for a Cohort (Preferably another summoner), and Improved Familiar.
I ended up playing around with this for a while and finally reached a place where I just sat back and said to myself "You are a bad person"
So what about you guys? What are your "Never in a million years" cheesiest builds?
I like theorycrafting. A lot.
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I love bringing up some cheesy builds with my DM -- not that I actually plan to follow through with them, but to make what I really want to do look tame by comparison.
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So I was thinking last night about what would be my favorite build concept for an incredibly cheesy character and I settled on a character that just blows the action economy out of the water.
My final build ended up being a Master Summoner with Eldritch Heritage to get a Familiar, Leadership for a Cohort (Preferably another summoner), and Improved Familiar.
I ended up playing around with this for a while and finally reached a place where I just sat back and said to myself "You are a bad person"
So what about you guys? What are your "Never in a million years" cheesiest builds?
Similar to yours but with the following :
Be an idyllkin variant aasimar : you now have Summon Nature's ally as an SLA which opens up the Moonlight, Starlight and Sunlight Summons feats. You also benefit from the bonus to CHA and CON.
Add a 1-level dip in Bard (Archetype Animal Speaker from UM for even more Summons) to boost your friends (and your other allies) with your performances. Note that if you meet its TPA prerequisites (and have the Extra Performance feat), the Master Performer feat from the Faction Guide will increase this boost without the need for further levels in Bard. The Flagbearer feat will add to it and will work wonderfully with the Banner of the Ancient Kings magic item.
Take a 1-level dip in Cavalier (Order of the Dragon for added boost to your nearby allies) to get a faithful Mount who will also share in all these nice bonuses and use Tactician to give them all a good Teamwork feat such as Shake It Off (from UC). Alternately, the Standard Bearer Archetype from UC will boost your allies even more, though at the cost of your Mount.
Just remember to boost your Handle Animal to guide all your animals (including the Celestial/Fiendish ones) around and invest in Linguistics for the Celestial, Abyssal and Elemental languages to do the same with your higher level-summons.
Who needs a party really ?
I can do 311 damage in a single attack, automatically.
Or force an opponent to make two Fortitude saves against DC 34, failing one of which, results in petrification. SR won't help either.
Or how about deal several hundred damage to multiple targets each round?
Or have an AC so high that nothing published can hit it?
How's that for cheesy?
EDIT: Though I haven't built one, a kitsune sorcerer can throw out domination spells with DCs over 40 (perhaps even in the 50s).