do u think it would be fine if i rolled an 18 if i did 4d6, drop the lowest?
i choose aasimar magus... AL THE WAY! and at level 6, ill multiclass into a dragon disciple...
Bless your post, bookrat.
In some places I've lived, that phrase is a compliment. In other places I've lived, that phrase is exceedingly insulting.
Lost in translation is easy with idioms.
do u think it would be fine if i rolled an 18 if i did 4d6, drop the lowest?
The best way to be sure someone isn't changing their stats to unfairly fit their character is to do all stat dice rolling in front of the GM. If you're rolling stats, that's the best way to go.
It was a compliment, I assure you. <3Bless your post, bookrat.In some places I've lived, that phrase is a compliment. In other places I've lived, that phrase is exceedingly insulting.
Lost in translation is easy with idioms.
That makes me happy. :)
Lost in translation is also easy in the written format. :)
i choose aasimar magus... AL THE WAY! and at level 6, ill multiclass into a dragon disciple...
Dragon Disciple has a prerequisite of casting 1st level spells without preparation. The magus must prepare his spells. This will not work, unfortunately.
Bless your post, bookrat.In some places I've lived, that phrase is a compliment. In other places I've lived, that phrase is exceedingly insulting.
Lost in translation is easy with idioms.
I believe the insulting version follows the formula:
"Bookrat is [insert negative thing here], bless his heart."
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Don't want to jump on the 'Bookrat you are awesome' bandwagon, but much kudos.
darkorbit, I know I am going to receive a lot of flack for this, but may I recommend you and your friends try either limiting yourselves to a single class, using only the core rulebook for your characters, or possibly try another pen and paper tabletop with a similar setting, such as D&D 4th Edition.
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Don't want to jump on the 'Bookrat you are awesome' bandwagon, but much kudos.
darkorbit, I know I am going to receive a lot of flack for this, but may I recommend you and your friends try either limiting yourselves to a single class, using only the core rulebook for your characters, or possibly try another pen and paper tabletop with a similar setting, such as D&D 4th Edition.
4th edition truly does make for a good start, in a lot of ways. Especially for young players - and for rules that are relatively clear.
And I second the single class, core rulebook. All the way.
Single class, CRB only is a fantastic idea. Heck, even though I've been gaming for a couple of decades now and the people I game with have all been gaming for at least a few years, when one of our players wanted to GM for the first time, even she stuck with CRB only. And she was an experienced player!
Sometimes, it is much easier to start with something small, and then slowly increase the level of complexity. Think of it in terms of math: you're starting with pre-calculus, right? You're not just jumping full-blown into calculus! Pathfinder can be just as complex with all the varied rules and rule exceptions scattered throughout the multitude of books and blog FAQs.
Alcomus and LichLoved have the heart of it: start small and expand slowly.
Hey! 4e has/had some good ideas! Like Residuum(?) & Modular Enchanting(3 out of the 4 systems at least)
But either way use only the CRB (GM:Bestiary) if going PFRPG or the 3 Main Books (PH1/DMG1/MM1) if going 4e.
Oh I hate 4e as a whole. There is literally 1 things I like from WotC. And that is an officially supported Character Generator.
That said 4e has some nice Ideas. Mainly the 2 things I mentioned. And I like some of the Races they have. I much prefer 4e's Dragonborn over 3.5's.
okk....
I know the basics... All i do is pathfidner all day
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Have to agree with Ooga a little on this one, darkorbit. If you do play pathfinder all day, someone has been teaching you wrong, or you are not understanding the rules all the way. I would recommend asking one of your parents to take you to your friendly local gaming store and see if someone there will take time to sit down and go over the core rules with you and possibly your parents and the rest of your gaming group. Some of the questions asked seem like a simple few hours spent reading over the skipped sections of the core rules will help.
Just wondering, but how much points would these scores take up: 18, 10, 10, 14, 4, 3
U cant go under 7 but i wanna so what would the stats that i mentioned above be...i dont know how to calculate under 7
I know the basics... All i do is pathfidner all day
Character Creation isnt a basic?
The link posted above already answered your question.
Using a Point Buy you can't go under 7 before Racial Mods.
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You don't.
Below 7 you are no longer an effective character. There is no good reason to have such low scores, other than that you want to have some other score ridiculously higher.
Think abut this: Even the strongest people in the world, while they may be lacking in intelligence, or charisma, are still at least able to hold a conversation, attend a school, possibly read a book, and do basic problem solving things, like place the block that looks like a circle into the circle hole, placing the square block, into the square hole, and understand that if you are mean to someone they will no be your friend.
On the other side, even the smartest people in the world are able to lift a moderate amount of weight, walk upright without falling down for no reason at all, and get over a case of the common cold without dying. Having scores below 7, you begin having characters that are not able to do some of these things.
You don't really want a character that dies because he has a cough, or that can't even say his own name, do you?
You don't really want a character that can't even say his own name, do you?
Umm, I have had characters who couldn't say their name... One was Mute, One was incredibly Stupid (INT 3 using Rolled Stats), and a few others were for various other reasons.
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You don't really want a character that can't even say his own name, do you?Umm, I have had characters who couldn't say their name... One was Mute, One was incredibly Stupid (INT 3 using Rolled Stats), and a few others were for various other reasons.
Point completely missed. Do you consider yourself an very experienced player? If so, that wasn't really directed towards you. No offense intended.
With Intelligence 3, creatures can still read and speak their racial language. I fairly certain they would still be able to say their own name.
U cant go under 7 but i wanna so what would the stats that i mentioned above be...i dont know how to calculate under 7
There is no official way to calculate under 7. If you want stats that low with a point buy, you have to ask your GM how to do it, as it would be a houserule.
So... do you think an 18, 10, 10, 14, 7, and a 7 are good scores?
Thanx jerra... ill assk my gm... cuz I don't want my stats to be too high
Actually the Incredibly Stupid one was my second character. But I didn't miss the point. Just pointed out that it could be wanted. If you want to play a specific style of character.
Though in his case it is probably him reading a Optimization thread that says Dump Charisma and thinks that a 3 would allow him to have more Optimized Stats.
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In regards to my comment on not being able to say your own name, yes, according to everything we know you can speak your racial language, but there are inherent difficulties to playing a character with such a low intelligence score. The same would apply to a low wisdom, or a low charisma. Also, this is an attempt at bending the rules to gain higher points, something that I think we can all agree is at least frowned upon most times, and it was my goal in posting to this thread to help a very young and impressionable gamer not end up just another 'i just made a gestalt half-dragon/half-fiend/human for the bonus feat monk/fighter/wizard/magus dip with a +5million to-hit that does everything ever and they won't let me play it in pfs, screw them' type of player.
Maybe I'm overstepping my bounds, but it seems like the GM is not overly experienced, possibly in the same age bracket as the OP. The last thing I think any of us want is for overall bad experience to turn kids away from great games, and it is our duty to teach, encourage good habits, and discourage bad habits as gamers. That's why we are responding in the advice threads, isn't it?
Hoo-Ah?
Figures it would be missed... I can't find the Comic right now... Hoo-Ah is what a Comic Character said when he had a Chris Griffin What Moment.
I was referring to the Gestalt thing you rattled off there.
But re-reading your post. I think I agree with you. We need to discourage the Min-Maxing.
Its just that i want my intel to stand out, and everything else will be in same range
I qm mroe experienced than my gm and like 6 months older than hhim
How much do you think that all my modifiers added up should be less than?
Cuz my current modifiers add up to one
Please, there is an Edit button on your posts. Instead of posting multiple times in a row, put it all in a single post. Its generally considered bad form to post several times in a row like that. Especially if its just one line posts.