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OK, I just wanted to check to see if I did this right. My paladin Roland has achieved 12 Fame and the corresponding 12 Prestige.
I bought Eagle Knight rank: Lance Corporal Faction Guide pg.16 for 5TPA 1CPA. Then, when I earned enough, I bought rank Captain 10TPA 3CPA. (and my GM signed off on it)
My questions are:
Does Fame = TPA and Prestige = CPA? They seem to be the same thing just slightly different names.
Is it even possible to become an Eagle Knight in Pathfinder Society?
If I'm wrong, could someone please tell me what I have to do to become an Eagle Knight Steel Falcon?
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I really have no idea what TPA or CPA are, but looking at the Pathfinder Society Field Guide, an Andoran can become an Eagle Knight at 20 Fame for 1 Prestige Point. I see nothing about becoming a Steel Falcon. What source are you using for the info on the ranks?
The Faction Guide is the source I'm using for the ranks. TPA = Total Prestige Award CPA = Current Prestige Award (after spending points to gain faction stuff)
The faction guide oddly enough, doesn't quite mesh up with pathfinder society rules.
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Pathfinder Society Field Guide, Andoran section (page 14), Prestige Awards (2nd column)
Ah...that explains it. I don't have that book. :(
20 Fame huh?.... 4 more adventures to go.
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As far as Steel Falcon goes - it's just one branch of the Eagle Knights, so if you should become an Eagle Knight (at 20 fame, with the appropriate PA expense) you can just *be* a Steel Falcon.
I suspect *most* Pathfinder Eagle Knights are Steel Falcons (it seems fitting), but it's worth mentioning that membership to the specific order is *secret*, so you wouldn't be known as Roland the Steel Falcon ;) They're the "Delta Operatives" of Andoran!
FYI my 11th level Ranger, Knight Captain Kyrian Solonor, is a Steel Falcon, so you can consider him one of your contacts in the organization if you like...
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As far as Steel Falcon goes - it's just one branch of the Eagle Knights, so if you should become an Eagle Knight (at 20 fame, with the appropriate PA expense) you can just *be* a Steel Falcon.
I suspect *most* Pathfinder Eagle Knights are Steel Falcons (it seems fitting), but it's worth mentioning that membership to the specific order is *secret*, so you wouldn't be known as Roland the Steel Falcon ;) They're the "Delta Operatives" of Andoran!
FYI my 11th level Ranger, Knight Captain Kyrian Solonor, is a Steel Falcon, so you can consider him one of your contacts in the organization if you like...
I appreciate that. A Squire, after all, needs a Knight. I'll add him to my address book.
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Cole: Im very worried about your GM signing off on it. or thinking that that part of the Faction Guide is legal. My Musket Master who also has Andoran as his faction (although is from Galt) hit 20 fame some time ago and became a Corporal in the Eagle Knights. He intends to become a Captain when he hits 40 fame (about 2 adventures away)
As David stated above, I would consider most Eagle Knights would be Steel Falcons as that arm of the knights is dedicated to serving A) outside of Andoran and B) spreading the values of Andoran to other places. The Twilight Talons also operate outside of Andoran but are far more secretive as they are a Clandestine organisation, whereas the Steel Falcons are proud to show the Hawk.
As the Pathfinder Society Field Guide is now part of the 'required' items for play, you should see about getting that asap.
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As David stated above, I would consider most Eagle Knights would be Steel Falcons as that arm of the knights is dedicated to serving A) outside of Andoran and B) spreading the values of Andoran to other places.
If you check out a copy of Andoran: Spirit of Liberty, Steel Talon is actually considered a Prestige Class, so you can add some crunch to your fluff instead of just saying "Yeah, I'm a Steel Talon..."
As the Pathfinder Society Field Guide is now part of the 'required' items for play, you should see about getting that asap.
Agreed.
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Sior: Thanks, I did know that. Im generally not a fan of prestige classes (and in Pathfinder they generally seem weaker than 3.5 varieties). That particular prestige class has limited in game scope (in terms of society play)
I just think it's something to note, since I do know some people who will insist you can't call yourself something if you don't have the crunch to back it up.
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Not all Steel Falcons will be members of the Steel Falcon PrC. But they won't be announcing themselves as such, anymore than someone from the CIA, KGB, or MI6 would.Sior: Thanks, I did know that. Im generally not a fan of prestige classes (and in Pathfinder they generally seem weaker than 3.5 varieties). That particular prestige class has limited in game scope (in terms of society play)I just think it's something to note, since I do know some people who will insist you can't call yourself something if you don't have the crunch to back it up.
I took the Cavalier miniature and painted it in Adoran Eagle Knight Heraldry: https://plus.google.com/117616742805278681834/posts?hl=en
Pretty impossible for anyone that knows the factions to miss me. LOL! :D
Spend 1 prestige point and grats! You're an eagle knight.
Your rank is lance corporal (you're not a sir till your next promotion)
You become specialized in diplomacy.
When a PC becomes specialized in a skill, that skill immediately becomes a class skill for her. If the PC gains that skill as a class skill from any other source(either before or after you purchase the prestige resource), she gains a +1 competence bonus on those skill checks.
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Eagle Knights !!!
You never change always to eager to follow orders, never to question or reinterpret them.
Thats why I left, lets call it a difference of opinion, just because I used fireballs to free slaves from their servitude sending them onto there true reward. They said no you've got to drag them around and tend them, feed them, cloth them.
Really! who wants those weak willed loosers hanging around if their not prepared to help themselves rise from their situation ,why should I have to be burdened with them.
The Strong survive and learn to fight for their freedom......
The lesson is harsh but the rewards are great .Former Eagle Knight
Vernar
A Shame you feel that way. Most slaves just want a chance at a normal happy life. Why not help them achieve that? Are you so busy? Or so cruel.
I agree with you about the following orders though. Sometimes orders, such as in the realm of unjust laws, are not to be followed. Of course there is a price to being part of the organization. Sometimes that is following orders that are against your personal interpretation of the situation.
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Eagle Knights !!!
You never change always to eager to follow orders, never to question or reinterpret them.
Thats why I left, lets call it a difference of opinion, just because I used fireballs to free slaves from their servitude sending them onto there true reward. They said no you've got to drag them around and tend them, feed them, cloth them.
Really! who wants those weak willed loosers hanging around if their not prepared to help themselves rise from their situation ,why should I have to be burdened with them.
The Strong survive and learn to fight for their freedom......
The lesson is harsh but the rewards are great .Former Eagle Knight
Vernar
I know that Eagle Knight...
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Vernar: Are you in fact stealing someone away if they had already been stolen away to become a slave originally?
You are also presuming here that they take it for themselves. Obviously if they wanted Freedom they would take it and thus we wouldnt be having this circular discussion. Eagle knights are tasked with showing people that freedom and democracy is a worthy goal in the end. Does that annoy other nations? Surely it does, but you dont stop doing something because others think its wrong.
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It is up to the individual to decide what laws are unjust and take what actions, if any, should be taken. And of course bare the responsibility for those actions. That is the price of Freedom.
A "slave" is someone who is being held against their will. If they would rather stay they are not slaves but are choosing to exchange servitude for whatever the "owner" offers. We Eagle Knights seek to free people that wish to be freed. I contend that given the choice, nine people out of ten will choose freedom over servitude. I mean to make sure those nine have that choice.
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Yeah I was looking at it.
I actually can't buy the Prestige class yet.
I'm 4th level and I need to have Diplomacy and Sense Motive 5. Can't get that for 1 more level. Then I'm in the Prestige Class.
You don't -have- to go into the prestige class if you choose not to.
I, myself, won't ever be in the Golden Legion, nor will I be a warrior for the Steel Falcons. But, I still serve the Cause. I am not from Andoran, but the blessings of Liberty need to be spread to all.
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Hello Eagle Knights,
My name is Campbell Dorn Wravend. I recently switched from Silver Crusade to Andoran after disagreement while searching for the sea witch of Absalom (Song of the Sea Witch). I have been a squire for a while now (3 levels of herald squire archetype Cavalier) and wish to put in my knight candidacy as an Eagle Knight [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/achievement-feats/eagle-knight-candidate-achievement]. I require 4 knightly recommendations and a town mayor. I have performed the following quests and next to each I will put possible recommendations next to them.
Song of the Sea Witch (Venture Captain Ollysta[Knight])
Among the Gods
Midnight Mauler
The Night March of Kalkamedes (Kalkamedes[Knight])
Sewer Dragons of Absalom
Citadel of Flame
The God's Market Gamble
Severing Ties
Tides of Twilight
The Temple of Empyreal Enlightenment
The Cyphermage Dilemma
The Frostfur Captives
Can anyone think of anyone I encountered on these quests that would count toward this feat or would anyone be willing to give me recommendation?
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Hello Eagle Knights,
My name is Campbell Dorn Wravend. I recently switched from Silver Crusade to Andoran after disagreement while searching for the sea witch of Absalom (Song of the Sea Witch). I have been a squire for a while now (3 levels of herald squire archetype Cavalier) and wish to put in my knight candidacy as an Eagle Knight [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/achievement-feats/eagle-knight-candidate-achievement]. I require 4 knightly recommendations and a town mayor. I have performed the following quests and next to each I will put possible recommendations next to them.
Song of the Sea Witch (Venture Captain Ollysta[Knight])
Among the Gods
Midnight Mauler
The Night March of Kalkamedes (Kalkamedes[Knight])
Sewer Dragons of Absalom
Citadel of Flame
The God's Market Gamble
Severing Ties
Tides of Twilight
The Temple of Empyreal Enlightenment
The Cyphermage Dilemma
The Frostfur Captives
Can anyone think of anyone I encountered on these quests that would count toward this feat or would anyone be willing to give me recommendation?
i dont think that feat is legal. its not listed on additional resorces
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I do so love the Vanities that PFS has in place. My character (Cavalier of the Dragon 8/Golden Legionnaire 1) is a Knight-Captain of the Golden Legionnaires himself (amazing combo prestige class with defense/bodyguard based cavaliers of the dragon). It is great that people can join in the Andoran Military but not have to take the prestige classes to do it.
The Steel Falcons and Golden Legionnaires are so full of crunch and fluff. They are both very good prestige classes. My friend is going Steel Falcon and found out that their chain breaker abilitiy can be done with unarmed strikes as well. It was kinda hilarious for everyone when they realized he could roar and bust his chains with his bare hands. The Blessing of Talmandor is always REALLY good.
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Zach: I just think they need a overhaul/shake up.
Esp for things like the Assasins Guild vanity. Im not sure thematically it should be there for access. People freak out about spending pp on these when they are worried about keeping the 20 or so for death issues, so we are seeing less and less people pick them up.
In terms of the ones for Andoran they are all quite interesting.
In terms of the Prestige classes.. I wont lie. I find them interesting but because of level restrictions in pfs .. unplayable. I have a single pfs character with a prestige class and that is bloatmage.
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I am quite amused that I have been given membership in your organization. I performed a task for your Twilight Talons, I was first drawn to the task as the slavers under investigation seemed to be dodging tarifs. I discovered that they were mistreating the slaves quite heavily, involved in some dark Lamashtan rituals. As was my duty as an Order of th Chain Hellknight, I punished those slavers for their transgresions. Know that while I hold title in your group, I will not be party to any unlawful actions and am duty bound to return escaped slaves to their owners.