So I was thinking of making a multi classing character, then i though what would a metal oracle wanna do? ninja? Ninja. I honestly think it would work out pretty well actually. this is the build so far
Point Buy: 20 (24 from bringing int to 7)
STR: 14
DEX: 15 (17 from human)
CON: 12
INT: 7
WIS: 10
CHA: 16
FEATS:
1st Combat Casting, Two-weapon Fighting (human bonus)
2nd -
3rd Double Slice
4th -
5th Two-weapon defense
6th -
7th Extra rev?
Just a character though and build I would like to try might work, dunno please say thoughts :O
Are you going to be able to do somatic components while wielding two weapons?
Are you going to be able to do somatic components while wielding two weapons?You can if you're using a 'double' weapon.
Nice wasn't even thinking of using a double weapon, and a double weapon can be use with twf yeah? Not sure cause I've never used a double weapon character before.
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If staying human, you'll have to burn a feat. Or go Half Elf with the Ancestral Arms trait. Use a 2-bladed sword.
And yes, you can TWF with a double weapon...
Double Weapons: Dire flails, dwarven urgroshes, gnome hooked hammers, orc double axes, quarterstaves, and two-bladed swords are double weapons. A character can fight with both ends of a double weapon as if fighting with two weapons, but he incurs all the normal attack penalties associated with two-weapon combat, just as though the character were wielding a one-handed weapon and a light weapon.
So a Double weapon already gets two-weapon fighting when doing a full attack if that's what I'm reading right?
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If you take a full attack, you will get 2 attacks, each having a -2 penalty.
Also assuming you have the TWF feat.
But to answer your question, yes you can two weapon fight with a double weapon and no TWF feat, but its a -6 penalty to your first attack and -10 to your second attack...not recommended...
Might aswell just go Metal Oracle/Fighter then to get the feats I need then to be honest.
You can definitely still do a ninja. Take the Exotic proficiency at level one and use the combat trick at level two to pick up two weapon fighting. Of course, you'll need to specify which character level you're taking what class levels at for it to make more sense.
Ninja/Oracle Half-Elf Feats:
N 1st: Two-weapon Fighting, Ancestral Arms: Two-Bladed Sword
O 2nd: -
N 3rd: Combat Casting, Combat Trick: Two-Weapon Defense
O 4th: +1 to Cha (17)
N 5th: Dodge
O 6th: -
O 7th: Warrior Priest
N 8th: +1 to Cha (18)
Oracle/Ninja Human Feats:
O 1st: Combat Casting, Warrior Priest
N 2nd: -
N 3rd: Two-Weapon Fighting, Combat Trick: Exotic 2-bladed sword
O 4th: +1 to Cha (17)
O 5th: Dodge
N 6th: -
O 7th: Two-weapon Defense
N 8th: +1 to Cha (18)
I don't recommend taking two weapon defense unless you've exhausted all your other options first, and I definitely wouldn't use a talent on it when you could be getting things like invisibility.
Well my question is this, would I be able to cast shield of Faith and would that bonus stack with the two-weapon defense feat? If so, I'ma just keep it and maybe just drop dodge for a extra ninja trick/rogue talent and pick up vanishing trick.
But also I would already have 2 tricks to chose from so if twd didn't stack I would actually drop that for weapon training.
The original idea behind this character was to just be able to summon his own weapon and buff it with spells.
You never need the TWF feat to TWF. It only reduces the penalties.
Without feat and non-light off-hand: -10/-6
Without feat and light off-hand: -8/-4
With feat and non-light off-hand: -4/-4
With feat and light off-hand: -2/-2
yes and you would be a fool for not taking the feat IMHO
Shield of Faith is a deflection bonus which would stack with the shield bonus from TWD since they are different types of bonuses. Dodge gives the same bonus to armor class but opens up feats that are a lot more worthwhile.
Like spring attack? lol yeah That's actually farther down the tree but this is just a rough sketch of a character idea that I wanna try out.
Just a update on the feat trees.
Ninja/Oracle Half-Elf Feats:
N 1st: Two-weapon Fighting, Ancestral Arms: Two-Bladed Sword
O 2nd: -
N 3rd: Combat Casting, Combat Trick: Two-Weapon Defense
O 4th: +1 to Cha (17)
N 5th: Dodge
O 6th: -
O 7th: Warrior Priest
N 8th: +1 to Cha (18)
O 9th: Mobility
O 10th:-
O 11th: Spring Attack/Toughness/Improved Initiative
N 12th: + 1 to Dex (18)
Oracle/Ninja Human Feats:
O 1st: Combat Casting, Warrior Priest
N 2nd: -
N 3rd: Two-Weapon Fighting, Combat Trick: Exotic 2-bladed sword
O 4th: +1 to Cha (17)
O 5th: Dodge
N 6th: -
O 7th: Two-weapon Defense
N 8th: +1 to Cha (18)
O 9th: Mobility
O 10th: -
O 11th: Spring Attack/Toughness/Improved Initiative
N 12th: +1 to Dex (18)
Don't TWF with this build. Wakazachis and shield. Don't dump your low BaB even further. Double weapons are good though because you can pull in 2 d8s and weapon focus applies to both ends. Plus if you only make one attack, I think you add 1.5 str... Need a fact check on that though.
Don't TWF with this build. Wakazachis and shield. Don't dump your low BaB even further. Double weapons are good though because you can pull in 2 d8s and weapon focus applies to both ends. Plus if you only make one attack, I think you add 1.5 str... Need a fact check on that though.
Yeah, a double weapon can be used at 1 1/2 Strength as long as you're only using one end of it (you don't even need to be attacking only once, you just can't be using it to Two-Weapon Fight)
Also, "Ninja 4 / Metal Oracle X" sounds like it would be the name of some anime that everybody aside from a tiny cult following thinks is terrible.