Does spell perfection double piercing spell MM feat?

[Grayfeather]

So feats says:
In addition, if you have other feats which allow you to apply a set numerical bonus to any aspect of this spell (such as Spell Focus, Spell Penetration, Weapon Focus [ray], and so on), double the bonus granted by that feat when applied to this spell.

However on Piercing spell Benefit: When you cast a piercing spell against a target with spell resistance, it treats the spell resistance of the target as 5 lower than its actual SR.

So with that said would this not treat the benefit as double?

[VRMH]

Tricky. "it treats the spell resistance of the target as 5 lower" can be interpreted as a bonus (in which case this combo works) or as a penalty (in which case it doesn't).

[Grayfeather]

VRMH wrote:

Tricky. "it treats the spell resistance of the target as 5 lower" can be interpreted as a bonus (in which case this combo works) or as a penalty (in which case it doesn't).

Well the feat mentions it as a Benefit. Benefit and bonus seem pretty close to the same thing.

[HaraldKlak]

IMO, it is a definite no.

Spell Perfection only affects "set numerical bonus to any aspect of the spell".

Unlike Spell Penetration, Piercing Spell a) does not affect an aspect of the spell, nor is b) a bonus. Piercing Spell affect the SR of the target, instead. Thus it shouldn't be doubled by the Spell Perfection.

[ShoulderPatch]

HaraldKlak wrote:

IMO, it is a definite no.

Spell Perfection only affects "set numerical bonus to any aspect of the spell".

Unlike Spell Penetration, Piercing Spell a) does not affect an aspect of the spell, nor is b) a bonus. Piercing Spell affect the SR of the target, instead. Thus it shouldn't be doubled by the Spell Perfection.

This.

The question has come up before. (Just use the search box)
This is the RAW answer everytime I've seen it discussed before, for those reasons.

I'd like to consider it a 'bonus', because generically it might be (as is, really, any feat), but the word 'bonus' in Pathfinder has a specific use, and I don't think this fits under the current RAW.

... Though I wish it did, and wonder if it might just be an oversight in writing, so I think it's a great FAQ candidate. I think for the cost of at least 4 feats it's not broken and might be RAI.

[Grayfeather]

Per James Jacob this question should be marked for FAQ to get attention. Asking all to FAQ it on upper right hand on my first post to get this answered.

[Grayfeather]

FAQ top please so we can get an answer on this

[Seped]

So this topic is marked as answered in the FAQ, but neither the UM nor APG FAQs mention spell perfection or piercing. What am I missing?

[DeltaOneG]

Hmm... I thought "other feats" excluded metamagic feats.