Bones Oracle: Raise the Dead question


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Grand Lodge

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I play a bones oracle in PFS and now have the Raise the Dead revelation. But, im not sure what to do with it. In the rules section it was mentioned at one point that the skeleton can be anything not just a human skeleton from the bestiary. Is this true for PFS?
-What stats get used for the skeleton/zombie?
-Does a human type have a 20point buy as well?
-How many hit points does it get for the first level?

Raise the Dead (Su): As a standard action, you can summon a single skeleton or zombie to serve you. The undead creature has a number of Hit Dice equal to your oracle level. It remains for a number of rounds equal to your Charisma modifier. At 7th level, you can summon a bloody skeleton or fast zombie. At 15th level, you can summon an advanced skeleton or zombie. You can use this ability once per day plus one additional time per day at 10th level.

Grand Lodge

-Like it says, it changes with hit dice based on your level. If you look on the d20pfsrd.com under the bones oracle it has links to the zombie and skeleton templates and in theme they have 1HD skeleton and 2HD zombie examples you can go off, but most of the creature's stats comes from what level the bone oracle is.
-there's no point buy for a summoned creatures, only Eidolons and maybe companions.
-level= hit dice again. d8's so 8 at first level and +4 (0.5*8 + - Con) for each additional level.

Grand Lodge

What can the skeleton/zombie template be applied to and still be PFS legal?

Grand Lodge

You're not raising a dead body like the spell raise dead. You are simply summoning a medium skeleton/zombie creature to the field. There is no application of a skeleton/zombie template. This is why it is a level one revelation.


Treat their HD like class levels, except:

Use the Zombie and Skeleton base stats.
Don't add feats, skill points, or stat points regardless of HD.
All their HD is done in d8s.
Give them average BAB (like an oracle) based on their HD.
Give them poor saves for fort and reflex and good for will (like an oracle) based on their HD.
They keep all their other special qualities (zombies are staggered and have DR 5/slashing, skeletons have 5/bludgeoning, etc.)

Base creature for zombie.
Base creature for skeleton.

I was thinking about making an elf or aasimar oracle of bones so that I could put the alternate racial trait into the revelation to get a higher HD undead and the better templates sooner, as well as getting the "level 10 extra use" at level 7. Then you would be able to get an advanced zombie or skeleton at level 10, which is cool for PFS. You can actually take abundant revelations get another use of it as well.


you assume, that each sommoned Skeleton is a human skeleton and the HD are added.

I do not read that in the RAW.

A human skeleton with 17 HD at level 17 is totally unusual to all other bestiary or summoning rules I know.

Sommoning normally summons bestiary-creatures with templates.

Why should this spell be different?

In my opinion it is meant to summon a variety of creatures... At level 17 a creature with 17 HD and the skeleton template... perhaps a behir-skeleton at lv 10 or a bugbear skeleton at lv 3...


I played my Oracle of Bones last night at PFS and there was discussion among me, the judge and the VC who happened to be another player at the table. Has Paizo every listed officially what the Raise the Dead ability can summon?
1) Can it apply the template to any PFS legal creature in the bestiary as someone mentioned above?
2) Does it only apply to human corpse and if so, is there somewhere that has examples of 3 HD, 4 HD, etc zombies and skeletons? I have never advanced a creature by only applying HD and want to make sure my stats are correct.
3) Although the ability mentions fast zombies and bloody skeletons at level 7, can you summon other variant types before level 7 as long as they are under the HD cap?

I found quite a bit of discussion on this ability on the boards but never any consensus on exactly how it works. Hoping someone can clarify!
Thanks!

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Starfinder Society Subscriber

Heh, necromancy.

Andrew has the best answer, I think. You summon a human skeleton/zombie with more health and better BAB/saves.

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