Will there ever been another massive hard cover book? (like Core)


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I am not sure of the page count, but I know Core books is bigger and more pages than most of Pathfinder hardcover books.

My question:

WIll there ever been another hard cover of that size (page count?)

Would there need to be a "special" reason to release a book of that size again? What could that reason be? (feel free to speculate)

Your thoughts?


If they have the need/usage, Im sure they'd do another. The Inner Sea world guide is what, 320 pages? Rise of the Runelords is 420.

So yeah, they'll make big books if they need. Thing is, the profit on larger books is more narrow. It benefits them to make two 300 page Bestiary's more, than one 600 page one.

All things considered, and using Amazon, Pathfinder books are great deals. You pay as much or LESS for the 576 page core book, hard cover, full color, all the way through, than you do for a new Palladium book, soft cover, black and white 160 pages from their company. (( They charge almost as much to ship as they do for the book. A $16 book costs about $16 to ship, in the same state))

I think the larger pathfinder books are a great deal. The smaller splat books are a bit steep. $33 for the hard cover 576 page core book, but $15 for a soft cover 64 page splat book? lol.

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Distant Worlds Guide should be at least 700 pages, but I may be a bit biased here ;)

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I'm probably in the minority in wanting a great big book that collects all the published spells to date, the magic and magic-item crafting rules, and adds new spells. Not sure it would be CRB size, though.


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Brandon Hodge wrote:
"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if dozens of Paizo employees suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced."

They did so at the prospect of creating so large a book that large, or at not? I happen to know a bit about the ordeal undertaken in creating the bible that is the core rule book.

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If you like large book, you should speak to the Frog God. They like large books.


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They like big books and cannot lie.


Well thanks all
Was hoping for more speculation about BIG books and topics that would need to have 500 plus pages

Lilith: thanks ... big books.. making me think of...other

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I suspect the reason CRB costs so little compared to smaller books is because of the sheer size of the run. My brother-in-law is in the printing industry. Bigger print run = smaller cost per unit. CRB is one of the best selling RPG books out there.


Yeah but still, even smaller run splat's you're looking at an amazing price difference.

I don't complain. I love that the Hard Cover Pathfinder books are so inexpensive when held up against.. well most anything in the industry.

You still gotta look at it and go

$33 = 575 page full color hard back
$16 = 64 page full color soft back

And tilt your head a bit. You get almost 10 times as much content for only 2 times the price. That's not a 'print run' thing.

Either way. I love it. I have all the Hard backs now and am slowly branching out into the soft covers.


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The core rulebook is also priced lower than it would normally be in order to make it easier for new players to pick it up and get into the hobby.


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Yeah, as I see it the hardcovers are discounted rather than the softcovers being pricey. (I think they're all too cheap, personally).


I hope we don't see anything as big as the core rule book. It's binding was badly insufficient;y strong. :/

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The cost of printing is not the big problem. The big problem is getting enough Paizo staff time to do a big book without the company grinding to a halt.

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Lorian wrote:
I hope we don't see anything as big as the core rule book. It's binding was badly insufficient;y strong. :/

I think that the Binding on the Core Rule book is fine overall. Even the old books like the PH and DMG from the 2E and 1E days in my collection and ALL still in great condition and I use them at all my tables a ton. My 3e Books are all great as well as my 3.5 books are all great too.

All the above books have had people complain about them. Including my wife with her books. She has Duct tape on hers but she always creased the binding by turning the books upside down and even pressed down on them slightly sometimes too. If she took care of her books like I did/do she would not have the problems she does with her books. She knows it too and agrees too.


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Lilith wrote:
They like big books and cannot lie.

When a book walks in with a iddy bitty price and huge page count in your face you get... sales!


As I said before, and will say again; they need to do a New Player Friendly version of the Core Manuals. I'm not saying the Begginer Box isn't of any help, but making the Core Book EASIER to digest for people who just came from the Beginner Box would be EASIER.

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