Lets say you have 2 or more quickened spells memorised.
Can you voluntarily cast a quickened spell as a standard action and then cast another quickened spell as a Swift action, in the same round.
Or to state it another way, when you cast a memorised quickened spell can you voluntarily cast it normally instead?
as long as youre casting it at the quickened level you memorized it i wouldnt see an issue with it, but RAW i don't think you can. (i have always hated the rule you couldn't use your standard action as a swift, whats so wrong with your entire turn being move/swift/swift instead of move/swift/standard?)
RAW, you can only 'demote' a Move action to Standard, so no.
This having been said, many GMs allow 'demoting' a Swift to Standard, as well.
Just take care to disallow demoting Swift to Move, as this would allow for three castings in a turn (A Quickened Spell, a Quickened Spell shifted to Move Action, and a Standard Spell), which would get a tad excessive.
I am not looking to convert actions. I am specifically asking about the quickened spell question and nothing else.
Can you voluntarily cast a quickened spell you have memorised at it's normal casting time instead? Still marking off the same spell slot you had it memorised in with the modified quicken levels?
Basically you would cast the spell normally and makr off the spell as if you had cast it quickened and eat the quickened spell 4 level increase as a loss.
Is there anything in the rules prohibiting this?
Can you voluntarily cast a quickened spell you have memorised at it's normal casting time instead? Still marking off the same spell slot you had it memorised in with the modified quicken levels?
That is a kind of action converting and it is not possible by RAW. You have an ability that you can use as a swift action. You can use one swift action per turn and there is no RAW way to get a second swift action or to trade a swift to a move/standard/full action.
So no possibility by RAW but many GMs make an exception for quickened spells and allow it.
I am not looking to convert actions. I am specifically asking about the quickened spell question and nothing else.
Well, there are two possible ways to pull this off.
One is to convert your Swift Action into Standard.
The other is to try and de-metamagic a spell you memorized in a meta'ed configuration on the fly.
Neither of which is cowered in RAW.
I have a related question. I couldn't find anywhere in the rulebook that says I can take the same metamagic feat more than once but since you're asking about preparing 2 or more quickened spells, I'm thinking that is how it works. Does this mean that as a wizard, I can take the same metamagic feat (ex. quickened spell) more than once as long as I use them on different spells when I prepare spells?
The alternative I was working with is that I can only take a metamagic feat once and therefore only use each metamagic feat once per day.
I'm confused by your question. You take a metamagic feat only once, but you can apply it to any spell any number of times per day as long as you increase the spell level by the requisite amount plus have already prepared the spell with the metamagic in advance if you are a prepared caster
I think you need to read through these rules a bit more closely.
I have a related question. I couldn't find anywhere in the rulebook that says I can take the same metamagic feat more than once but since you're asking about preparing 2 or more quickened spells, I'm thinking that is how it works. Does this mean that as a wizard, I can take the same metamagic feat (ex. quickened spell) more than once as long as I use them on different spells when I prepare spells?
The alternative I was working with is that I can only take a metamagic feat once and therefore only use each metamagic feat once per day.I'm confused by your question. You take a metamagic feat only once, but you can apply it to any spell any number of times per day as long as you increase the spell level by the requisite amount plus have already prepared the spell with the metamagic in advance if you are a prepared caster
I think you need to read through these rules a bit more closely.
The only exception to this that I can think of is Elemental Spell, in which case you choose a different element to transform your spells to each time
I miss sudden metamagic feats. :(
I miss sudden metamagic feats. :(
well, there are rods, at least..
And metamagic magus arcana
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Okay I read through the rules thoroughly but I'd thought that the feat was 'used up' when I applied it to a spell for the day but If it's limited by spell slot that makes more sense. Thanks :).
The only time a metamagic feat is used up is when it is either a special version, like the Magus's once a day abil;ity to empower a spell on the fly, or a rod, which gives three uses of the feat, within the limitations of the rod type (lesser for up to 3rd level spells, regular for up to 6th level spells, and greater for up to 9th level spells).