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Aretas wrote:


Its all the same to you?

Yes, in fact, whether you own up to being a racist or come up with some kind of excuse is pretty much all the same to me.

Aretas wrote:


You see I do believe that the US has done some bad and good in the middle east and elsewhere around the world.

You could have fooled, well, everybody in multiple threads.

Aretas wrote:


We enjoy the position of Monday morning quarterback if you can understand my analogy.

You don't need the benefit of hindsight to see the kinds of terrible choices the US has made. Ousting Mossadegh, a popular and democratically elected candidate in favor of the Shah and his CIA-trained torturers isn't something that only turned out bad down the road. It was terrible to begin with.

Aretas wrote:


Considering that you and so many other here refuse to believe that the US has done ANY good is unfathonable.

Who in this thread believes that the US has never done any good? Find the quotes or admit you're just making stuff up.

Aretas wrote:


You and many here on the boards are just waiting with panting breaths to see what I would say only to lunge at an imaginary effigy of Uncle Sam and smash him around.

So now we imagined the CIA and MI6 overthrowing Mossadegh? Aretas, do you think that we're living inside a game of Mage: The Ascension and the rest of us just have so strong a belief in it that history rewrote itself to conform to our imaginations?

Aretas wrote:


You see when you engage someone else in a discussion there is a concept known as "good faith" and you are severly decifient of it.

I am familiar with the contradiction in terms that is the principle of good faith. I've even practiced it in the past. I've done so, in fact, in the course of attempting discussion with you. You have poorly rewarded everybody who I have seen make the attempt. I suspect that most of us spend enough time pouring water down gopher holes on the internet without adding you to the itinerary just because you so clearly want to abuse our generous natures by invoking good faith when you so clearly have none for us.


Samnell wrote:
Aretas wrote:


Its all the same to you?

Yes, in fact, whether you own up to being a racist or come up with some kind of excuse is pretty much all the same to me.

Aretas wrote:


You see I do believe that the US has done some bad and good in the middle east and elsewhere around the world.

You could have fooled, well, everybody in multiple threads.

Aretas wrote:


We enjoy the position of Monday morning quarterback if you can understand my analogy.

You don't need the benefit of hindsight to see the kinds of terrible choices the US has made. Ousting Mossadegh, a popular and democratically elected candidate in favor of the Shah and his CIA-trained torturers isn't something that only turned out bad down the road. It was terrible to begin with.

Aretas wrote:


Considering that you and so many other here refuse to believe that the US has done ANY good is unfathonable.

Who in this thread believes that the US has never done any good? Find the quotes or admit you're just making stuff up.

Aretas wrote:


You and many here on the boards are just waiting with panting breaths to see what I would say only to lunge at an imaginary effigy of Uncle Sam and smash him around.

So now we imagined the CIA and MI6 overthrowing Mossadegh? Aretas, do you think that we're living inside a game of Mage: The Ascension and the rest of us just have so strong a belief in it that history rewrote itself to conform to our imaginations?

Aretas wrote:


You see when you engage someone else in a discussion there is a concept known as "good faith" and you are severly decifient of it.
I am familiar with the contradiction in terms that is the principle of good faith. I've even practiced it in the past. I've done so, in fact, in the course of attempting discussion with you. You have poorly rewarded everybody who I have seen make the attempt. I suspect that most of us spend enough time pouring water down gopher holes on the internet without...

You know I'm not racist sweety. The reason why I won't go out with you is because I'm straight, remember?


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Aretas wrote:
You know I'm not racist sweety. The reason why I won't go out with you is because I'm straight, remember?

I'm positive you are a racist, dear. You practically scream it in half the threads you make here. When given the chance to exonerate yourself, the most you can do is handwaving. I'm sure that impresses your friends.


Samnell wrote:
Aretas wrote:
You know I'm not racist sweety. The reason why I won't go out with you is because I'm straight, remember?
I'm positive you are a racist, dear. You practically scream it in half the threads you make here. When given the chance to exonerate yourself, the most you can do is handwaving. I'm sure that impresses your friends.

I am getting a racist and homophobe vibe from the A at worst, ignorant, self blinkering, bellend at best.


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Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

Oh, don't do that! Citizen Aretas threads are the best!

You just have to learn to ignore Citizen Aretas.

That is the most sensitive thing I heard. Period !

Aretas's hypocrisy is fun for a time, but grows quickly stale. He should refine a bit his strawman tactics : putting his own words in the mouth of others, again and again, becomes quite transparent after a while.


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Aretas wrote:

ly to lunge at an imaginary effigy of Uncle Sam and smash him around.

You see when you engage someone else in a discussion there is a concept known as "good faith" and you are severly decifient of it.

You can only turn four cheeks before you run out dude.


Hee hee!

I would protest again, but you guys seem to be having fun.


Aretas wrote:


I'm glad I wont be hearing from you again since you have nothing to contribute aside from "Aaaaaameeericaaaaaa.....baaaaaad"

Well, your the history expert... enlighten me! Show me your Good Faith. Please.

Tell me about all the positive things the US has done in the region. That should be a real easy one for you. There are probably even several "Project for a New American Century"-esq think tanks that can do much of the work for you.

I'll even get you started. Here is something that I see as a step in the right direction:
"The Camp David Accords were signed by Egyptian President Anwar El Sadat and Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin on September 17, 1978, following thirteen days of secret negotiations at Camp David."


I'm guessing the good faith is that Citizen Aretas won't kick your dog too.

I'm revoking his salt rations.

DOWN WITH SALT!

VIVE LE GALT!


The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Samnell wrote:
Aretas wrote:
You know I'm not racist sweety. The reason why I won't go out with you is because I'm straight, remember?
I'm positive you are a racist, dear. You practically scream it in half the threads you make here. When given the chance to exonerate yourself, the most you can do is handwaving. I'm sure that impresses your friends.
I am getting a racist and homophobe vibe from the A at worst, ignorant, self blinkering, bellend at best.

You know I was thinking the same about you! Then I thought bellend didn't suit you considering you don't have one to begin with.


Samnell wrote:
Aretas wrote:
You know I'm not racist sweety. The reason why I won't go out with you is because I'm straight, remember?
I'm positive you are a racist, dear. You practically scream it in half the threads you make here. When given the chance to exonerate yourself, the most you can do is handwaving. I'm sure that impresses your friends.

Take a look at Fergie for the answer to your previous questions about someone who believes American has done zero good in the middle east.

You really can't help yourself with the racist name calling.
Its offensive, you are lying, you get me?

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We are so ridiculously done here it's not funny. These kinds of threads need to stay on topic and respectful, and I'm not seeing a lot of either here.

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