Vows of violence
Vows of vengeance
The twice damned land
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James, when you finally settle on something (I presume we'll know that's happened when this thread gets locked?) I'd be really interested to hear why you choose what you do. Some of these are great and some of them less so - I really struggle to articulate to myself what it is that makes me prefer one to the other though.Absolutely. When I make my decision, I'll post it here and explain why I chose what I did.
Will you post the ones you seriously considered? Would be interesting to see behind the process why certain ones are better from a business standpoint over others.
Spent Prayers
Pilgrim's Progress!
Lessons of the the Lost Omens
Not sure what that might even mean, but kinda has a ring to it...
I will second any "Call to Arms" or "A Call to Arms" variation... for Nirmathas or Molthune, should they ever get an AP. ;)
Some more from my fevered (feeble?) brain:
Where Demons Fear To Tread- Too long, but...
The Armageddon Crusade
Against the Fall of Night- Assuming Arthur C. Clarke is cool with it, of course...
What I'm NOT 100% happy with right now, though, is the Adventure Path's title—currently, we're calling it "The Demonblight Crusade." Not a terrible title, but I'd rather call it something else.
Split the difference, call it "The Blight Crusade."
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Would you consider giving your Top X (10 maybe?) of titles you considered? I'd love to know what made the cut to you, along with the one you chose and your reasons? Gives insight into your mind :)James, when you finally settle on something (I presume we'll know that's happened when this thread gets locked?) I'd be really interested to hear why you choose what you do. Some of these are great and some of them less so - I really struggle to articulate to myself what it is that makes me prefer one to the other though.Absolutely. When I make my decision, I'll post it here and explain why I chose what I did.
I might do that, sure!
Slivers from the Abyss, Ravages of the Abyss.....and I'm out of ideas.
I was initially gonna go with Wrath of the Hells but demons aren't from hell, so yeah.
Oh oh oh!! Maelstrom of Malice! (I like the word maelstrom)
Shades of Chaos
Burning Souls
Sorrow's Host
i still like my own "the wounded crusade "
in a nod to carl edgar wagner
" a lonely place of dying "
If you want Crusade in the title:
Crusade of the Damned,
Crusade of (pick one: Vengeance, Might, Twilight/Twilight Crusade)
I am fond of using the aforementioned Hellfire and Brimstone in the title as an evocative way to bring up Hellish or Demonic visuals.
Good luck sifting through all these good choices everyone is putting up ;-).
Tide of Desolation
Mended Land, being around the worldwound and such
Treachery of the Demonlords
Chaos Redeemed
Saga of the Abyss
Dawn of Heroes
Before the Dawn
Ok... thats all i got for tonight.
The Abyss Stares Back
The Horror...
Pilgrims In An Unholy Land
Illumination
Sinners and Saints (Oh, yeah! Another potential "SS" title!)
Saint Sinners
Sins of the Saints
Ultimate Crusade
Holy Hell/Abyss
Nameless Crusade
Ultimate Sin
The Last Stand
Holy/Divine Retribution(s)
T-Rex War
Fall and Redemption
Rise of the Demonlord
Fire(s)/Flame(s) of Salvation - possibly starting with Black (e.g. Black Flame of Salvation)
Salvation's Flame
Sorry, I'm stuck on the black fire reference. I like the double meaning with the fire being associated with the salvation. Since it is more associated with the demons. Since redemption is heavy, maybe a redeemed evil plays a pivotal role in success.
Also, it doesn't make it an absolute win. It isn't called Rise and Fall of the Runelords, Removed Curse of the Crimson Throne. I think the overall title shouldn't indicate success of the PC's mission. Mainly just thinking out loud... or thinking in text as it were.
Sadly, there are a few with the now-overused "SS" acronym...
Saving Sarkoris
Salvation of Sarkoris
To Save Sarkoris
The Scouring of Sarkoris
and there is at least one "CC" that comes to mind
The Cleansing Crusade
hmm.... maybe...
Of Prophecy and Pestilence
Prophecy of Pestilence
Purging (of) Pestilence
The Purgind of Sarkoris
* Mendevian March (MM)
* Mythic Mendevian March (3M)
* March of Mendev (MoM)
* Demon Lords Bane (DeLoB)
* Redemption Crusade (RC)
Against the Demon Scourge
Crusade Against the Demon Scourge (to put the word "Crusade" in there)
The Demon Crusades
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Hearken the Clarion call for Battle
To muster forth the Ten Thousand Strong
For our Oracles beheld a Pale Horse
At the End of the long Road to Perdition
And behind Her Gates awaits Death.
Hearken the Clarion call for Battle
To muster forth the Ten Thousand Strong
For our Oracles beheld a Pale Horse
At the End of the long Road to Perdition
And behind Her Gates awaits Death.
Can I favorite something twice?
...Ten Thousand Strong
Return of the Riftwalkers
We Stand Alone
Through Fire and Flame
The Rift of Ruin
Purity and Pestilence
The Price of Freedom
Strength of Sorrow
The Green Fields of Sarkoris
No Man's Land
Cleansing the Blight
Sarkorian Purgatory
Dying of Curiosity
Good one!
Pilgrim's Progress!
Using that title could cause some not fun confusion, but I could see a "Paladin's Progress" or "Crusader's Progress" as a nod to the original.
-TimD
Here's some more:
Where Angels Fear To Tread
Cry to Heaven*
Call for the Righteous
Quest of the Righteous
Lament for the Fallen
* Yes, I know this is the title of an Anne Rice book, but it's a good title!
Don't feel bad Eric, there have been a ton of recycled titles, no insult to anyone's creativity.
It's tough though. Whatever happens during the AP, Paizo isn't going to do anything that removes the Worldwound from Golarion, right? so everything like "triumph" or "redemption", anything with a sense of game changing finality about it, is sort of a non-starter.
It's just one fan's opinion, but I'm still thinking The Worldwound: Insert Chapter Title Here might be the way to go.
It's tough though. Whatever happens during the AP, Paizo isn't going to do anything that removes the Worldwound from Golarion, right? so everything like "triumph" or "redemption", anything with a sense of game changing finality about it, is sort of a non-starter.
I'd imagine it would work the same way pretty much every other AP has, giving the home campaign the opportunity to have it affect their world, but otherwise not acknowledging its effects on Golarion in other products.
For example, there are no assumptions that the world may have been devastated in Second Darkness, although that's a possibility.
A couple ideas off the top of my head:
Scars of Golarion
Wounds of Golarion
Golarion Scarred
Legacy of Pain/Wounds/Demons
(It's hard to break from the scar/wounds idea)
Merisiel Silvari and the Worldwound Redemption. :D
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James,
OK, you've got over 300 posts. Which ones made it to the final five?
-Dying of Curiosity
I'm not ready to reveal that until I've settled on a name for the Adventure Path... which may or may not come from the suggestions in this thread. As for when I'm ready to do so... that could be later this afternoon, or it could be weeks or even months from now. Obviously I hope to nail it down SOONER than later though.
So, for now... be patient. I've not yet seen THE PERFECT TITLE show up, but there are a few that are close.
Lost Omens
Not sure there are any historical ties in the adventure path, but I like how it plays with the chapter titles..
The Demonscar Prophecy(ies)
Herald of the Void
Blight's Maw
Breach to Insanity
Wound's Wound
Demon's Bane March
Banished in Blight
March to Wound's End
ok some more
the tattered scar
the red horizen
hopes end
vangaurd of the damned
the mirror of fire
last sons of golarion
souls end
Yeah... I am getting one tracked in my posts...
Stem the Incursion Crusade
The World Legacy
The Worldwound Incursion
The Veiled Incursion*
*I really like this one because it kind of throws you off as to the meaning...
The Song of Chaos
Flight of fiends
EDIT: Equally nice, Heir to Damnation.
I'm still partial to Against the Abyss.
Why? I think the title works on multiple levels. For one, clearly, it's an AP about going up against demons from the Abyss. Yes, it's in the form of a crusade, but I don't think you really need to mention "crusade" in the title. If you absolutely wanted to, you could name it Crusade Against the Abyss. Secondly, the AP literally invovles going up against the giant Worldwound chasm...which is itself an "abyss"...in addition to the demon lord, Deskari, who created it. Next, there's a whole redemption angle to it, too. There's an internal struggle about going up against the "abyss" in one's soul to atone for some aggrieved sins. And lastly, it's got an old school vibe to it similar to the Against the Giants series. So, Against the Abyss has overtones of all that going for it.
But that's just my two cents,
--Neil