1st level:
Fighter (unarmed archetype)
Bonus feat from 'unarmed style': Crane Style
2nd and 3rd level:
Master of Many Styles
"Alternatively, a master of many styles may choose a feat in that style’s feat path (such as Earth Child Topple) as one of these bonus feats if he already has the appropriate style feat (such as Earth Child Style). The master of many styles does not need to meet any other prerequisite of the feat in the style’s feat path. "
So at second level, I can take Crane Wing and at 3rd level take Crane Riposte? In fact, if I'm reading this right, if I wanted to, I could have taken Crane Riposte at 2nd level, though it would have been useless since it triggers when I use Crane Wing?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Master of Many Styles a Monk archetype, and you're building a Fighter?
If that's the case, you can't get Crane Riposte until your level 6 Bonus feat kicks in.
Even if you can choose this archetype, the Master of Many Styles text specifically calls out Bonus Feats, and Fighters don't get a bonus feat at level 3 - so you'll have to wait until level 4. I think.
Yes and no. It looks to me he's making an unarmed combatant. The fact is, he's mixing Monk and Fighter to do it.
Tel's got it right.
1st: Fighter (unarmed)
2nd level: Monk (MoMS)
3rd level: Monk (MoMS)
By starting with unarmed fighter, I get my style feat without meeting the pre-reqs.
From there, I go into Master of Many Styles, getting the 2nd and 3rd feats in the chain as bonus feats, again without meeting the pre-reqs through the MoMS ability.
My GM and I agreed that I've either found a really nice combination, or I'm reading something wrong here. Thought I'd run it by the rule-lawyering munchkins on the boards to check for errors. No offence intended, I am certainly a rule-lawyering munchkin myself to have found this combo. =)
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It looks legit, although it almost certainly violates RaI. I don't see anything suspicious RAW-ly.
That's what developers get for introducing prerequisite-skipping bonus feats.
Of course, a Human Monk could reach Crane Riposte at level 2 already;
1) Dodge
1) Imp. Unarmed (monk)
1) Crane Style (human bonus)
1) Crane Wing (monk bonus)
2) Crane Riposte (monk bonus)
Because apparently MoMS is just busted.
It looks legit, although it almost certainly violates RaI. I don't see anything suspicious RAW-ly.
That's what developers get for introducing prerequisite-skipping bonus feats.
Of course, a Human Monk could reach Crane Riposte at level 2 already;
1) Dodge
1) Imp. Unarmed (monk)
1) Crane Style (human bonus)
1) Crane Wing (monk bonus)
2) Crane Riposte (monk bonus)Because apparently MoMS is just busted.
Alternatively, I've just considered that if I take crane style for free at level 1, crane wing for free at level 2, then at level 3 take snake style normally, I could jump right into snake fang, skipping snake sidewind through the MoMS's ability, at level 3.
So at level 3, I'd have both snake fang and crane wing. I'd delay getting Crane Riposte, but Snake Fang seems like a pretty viable alternative.
If anyone sees a problem with my reading of the rules, please point it out so I don't embarrass myself when I bring this build to my GM? My character's going to be 2nd level next game (31st Aug potentially), so I'm going to need to lock-in by then whether I will commit to this build.
Hey Dave! I think we can tell Adam that this is legit! =D