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Charmed should have ended a season earlier.
My complaint about the BSG ending.
<rant> Why would you sentence your children to starvation and early death? I'd rather have seen part of the fleet go off and part stay (So we could see the cycle begin again, with Earth starting 'from scratch' and what would be the 13 colonies with tech.) Instead "Oh, tech is evil, we should all live in huts and die young.</rant>

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I thought the BSG ending did what it was supposed to do, bring the storyline full circle (mostly). In that, they suceeded. As an ending I could enjoy and get into, it failed miserably.
However, as much as it didn't make sense...

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X-Files... They should of ended that series a couple of years earlier (when Mulder went away).
the X-Files is my #2 example of a great series that went on for too long. the minute Duchovny wanted out they should've said "ok, time to end it"
#1 on my "ruined it by making it longer than it needs to be" is Alias, whose final season was just painful. One less season would have been perfect. To be fair, though, Alias had an ending I can't find much fault with, despite a how horrible the rest of the season was.

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I thought the BSG ending did what it was supposed to do, bring the storyline full circle (mostly). In that, they suceeded. As an ending I could enjoy and get into, it failed miserably.
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However, as much as it didn't make sense...
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Edit: Re Your first spoiler
Aside: I just caught Idle Hands, I think it's one of my favourite episodes now.
Re your second spoiler:
If we count Alf, we have to cound Farscape (not counting the Peacekeeper Wars)
SGA also ended on a WTF moment since it's my understadning the had to truncate the finale and that's why the 'wormhole drive' appeared out of nowhere. (And was never seen again, as between the wormhole drive and the ancient (and Asgard!) database, Destiny shouldn't have been that far out of reach.)

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Can we count ALF?
I mean, it was cancelled on what was supposed to be cliffhanger, but in reality translates into his fellow Melmaxians abandoning him to be captured and dissected by the US Government.
Does that count, or does it just fall under horribly depressing?
Why would it not count? Is it not a TV show.

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Enterprise "These are the Voyages." Worse than BSG ending.
Agreed on both this and SGA. But neither as bad as SGU's ending/non-ending, which was obviously meant to be a "this is the end of the series, but we're still depserately hoping for a tv movie greenlight, so we're going to end it in a way that doesn't really resolve anything".
Frankly, if I were writing a show, I would refuse to sign any contract that didn't include a "we're cancelling your show, but you get to make at least five more episodes to wrap everything up" clause. It's one thing if the ending is someone dropping the ball (BSG), it's another when it's fairly obviously rushed (SGA/SGU)

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Charmed should have ended a season earlier.
My complaint about the BSG ending.
<rant> Why would you sentence your children to starvation and early death? I'd rather have seen part of the fleet go off and part stay (So we could see the cycle begin again, with Earth starting 'from scratch' and what would be the 13 colonies with tech.) Instead "Oh, tech is evil, we should all live in huts and die young.</rant>
Basically they realised that they had two choices.
1. Try to recreate the Colonies, the same spiritually exhausted state that created it's own self-destruction not once but at least TWICE. Such a decision would have meant extinction for the native hominids.
2. Live as part of the world in the time they had left and give the native species a chance to write their own destiny, not shackled with the failed history of the Twelve Worlds.

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Can we count ALF?
I mean, it was cancelled on what was supposed to be cliffhanger, but in reality translates into his fellow Melmaxians abandoning him to be captured and dissected by the US Government.
Does that count, or does it just fall under horribly depressing?
They did do a TV movie that resolved the cliffhanger in a funny way.

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Matthew Morris wrote:Charmed should have ended a season earlier.
My complaint about the BSG ending.
<rant> Why would you sentence your children to starvation and early death? I'd rather have seen part of the fleet go off and part stay (So we could see the cycle begin again, with Earth starting 'from scratch' and what would be the 13 colonies with tech.) Instead "Oh, tech is evil, we should all live in huts and die young.</rant>Basically they realised that they had two choices.
1. Try to recreate the Colonies, the same spiritually exhausted state that created it's own self-destruction not once but at least TWICE. Such a decision would have meant extinction for the native hominids.
2. Live as part of the world in the time they had left and give the native species a chance to write their own destiny, not shackled with the failed history of the Twelve Worlds.
Then they really screwed up because headBaltar and headSix basically say "Every time they've done this, it's failed." With headSix saying, "Maybe they'll get it right this time."

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Can we count ALF?
I mean, it was cancelled on what was supposed to be cliffhanger,
How about Soap and ending on cliffhangers? How many characters were about to be shot and the end of the season and suddenly it's gone because the Baptists complained about it? And just think how mild that show is compared to todays shows.

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Matthew Winn wrote:How about Soap and ending on cliffhangers? How many characters were about to be shot and the end of the season and suddenly it's gone because the Baptists complained about it? And just think how mild that show is compared to todays shows.Can we count ALF?
I mean, it was cancelled on what was supposed to be cliffhanger,
Actually it makes sense for Soap (and Benson) to end on unresolved cliffhangers, since the former was a clear parody of Soap Operas and the later a spin off of the first.
Heck if they made a modern 'Soap' I'd do two episodes in the middle of the season with a complete replacement cast, then go back to the normal cast, and have no one notce. (to poke fun at soap opera recasting) Bonus if you could get the 'replacement cast' to include alums like Rick Springfield, Michelle Tractenberg, Sarah Michelle Geller, or optionally currently working Soap Opera actors.

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darth_borehd wrote:Lost.
Worst. Ending. Ever.
Not only did it not make sense, it failed to resolve any plotlines, explained no long-standing mysteries, and was painfully mawkish.I felt like pulling an Elvis on my TV.
Yes. The "Lost" ending was stupid.
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To be honest, "Lost" became ridiculous to me right around the fourth season, when all the time travel and alternate reality crap started happening. I personally thought it was a signal that the writers had run out of good ideas and were just reaching for the craziest possible plot threads to try to keep the audience engaged. I quit watching after that point, but of course looked up the eventual ending online just to see how everything wrapped up -- and you're right. What a dumb, unoriginal, unsatisfying ending. Such a cop-out. I'm shocked that something that bad can air on a major network, but that very strong sci-fi shows with good writing can be canceled even when they're on smaller networks (my poor "Firefly" ...). /rant :)

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Amanda Hamon wrote:I'm shocked that something that bad can air on a major network, but that very strong sci-fi shows with good writing can be canceled even when they're on smaller networks (my poor "Firefly" ...). /rant :)Errr, weren't Lost and Firefly both Fox shows? ;)
Lost was ABC

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Martin Sheaffer wrote:Lost was ABCAmanda Hamon wrote:I'm shocked that something that bad can air on a major network, but that very strong sci-fi shows with good writing can be canceled even when they're on smaller networks (my poor "Firefly" ...). /rant :)Errr, weren't Lost and Firefly both Fox shows? ;)
LOL, guess I am getting old and forgetful. Though to be honest I didn't watch it after about two shows into season 2.

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Charmed should have ended a season earlier.
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<rant> Why would you sentence your children to starvation and early death? I'd rather have seen part of the fleet go off and part stay (So we could see the cycle begin again, with Earth starting 'from scratch' and what would be the 13 colonies with tech.) Instead "Oh, tech is evil, we should all live in huts and die young.</rant>
And to go with that, how is it for 4 seasons of the show no one could agree to anything at all on the show, but all of a sudden 100% agree to live on a planet with nothing and go native? I would have liked to seen some disagreement and have that one ship fly off with people that wanted to keep going.

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Matthew Morris wrote:Charmed should have ended a season earlier.
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<rant> Why would you sentence your children to starvation and early death? I'd rather have seen part of the fleet go off and part stay (So we could see the cycle begin again, with Earth starting 'from scratch' and what would be the 13 colonies with tech.) Instead "Oh, tech is evil, we should all live in huts and die young.</rant>And to go with that, how is it for 4 seasons of the show no one could agree to anything at all on the show, but all of a sudden 100% agree to live on a planet with nothing and go native? I would have liked to seen some disagreement and have that one ship fly off with people that wanted to keep going.
Not to defend the show's ending, but it's a lot easier to achieve 100% consensus when everyone who's disagreed with you has died in the last 55 minutes....

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To be honest, "Lost" became ridiculous to me right around the fourth season, when all the time travel and alternate reality crap started happening. I personally thought it was a signal that the writers had run out of good ideas and were just reaching for the craziest possible plot threads to try to keep the audience engaged. I quit watching after that point, but of course looked up the eventual ending online just to see how everything wrapped up -- and you're right. What a dumb, unoriginal, unsatisfying ending. Such a cop-out. I'm shocked that something that bad can air on a major network, but that very strong sci-fi shows with good writing can be canceled even when they're on smaller networks (my poor "Firefly" ...). /rant :)
At the end of the third season they were granted seasons 4-6 to plan the shows ending (whether they actually did that or not). The show definitely had a different feel from that point on.
I liked Lost and thought the ending wasn't all that I wanted it to be, but it wasn't a bad ending. I have a feeling you don't know how the show really ended

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At the end of the third season they were granted seasons 4-6 to plan the shows ending (whether they actually did that or not). The show definitely had a different feel from that point on.
I liked Lost and thought the ending wasn't all that I wanted it to be, but it wasn't a bad ending. I have a feeling you don't know how the show really ended ** spoiler omitted **
I've learned not to talk about how I feel about the end of LOST lest I be rent apart by seething haters.
I thought the ending was just fine and it's still in my top three shows of all time (#1 and #2 are both Firefly, because it's too awesome for just one slot). But you're the only other person I've met who doesn't froth at the mouth when discussing it, so I just keep my head down and say "yup, that show had a lot of flaws. Moving on..."
Then again, I've been told my brain doesn't register things I don't like, so I generally walk away from shows only remembering the good parts.

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Matthew, I love the show but it wasn't perfect. No need to keep your head down from me!
Grand Magus brings up another of my favorite shows Seinfeld. I was disappointed by the end show, and it definitely wasn't a typical Seinfeld show. I knew what they were going for, but it missed on a lot of cylinders for me. Now if you include the "reunion" shows from "Curb your enthusiasm" it has a much nicer ending.

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Not really a story issue but...
Babylon 5... The way that at the end of it's run, they kept switching days and time slots of the show without much notice, then said that they cancelled the show because of bad ratings... lol... It was playing on Tuesday nights around 12:20am at one point!! Ugh!
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Not really a story issue but...
Babylon 5... The way that at the end of it's run, they kept switching days and time slots of the show without much notice, then said that they cancelled the show because of bad ratings... lol... It was playing on Tuesday nights around 12:20am at one point!! Ugh!
Ultradan
From my understanding the network announced at the beginning of the fourth season that they were canceling the show, which forced J. Michael Straczynski to compress the entire 5th season story arc into the second half of the fourth season in an attempt to finish his originally planned 5 act story. At the end of season 4 the network renewed the series for a 5th season, which then caused headaches as Mr. Straczynski now had to create a whole new story arc for the 5th season.
Still I loved the series, I wish we could have seen the entire shadow war plot stretched through the 5th season as originally planned.
What ever happened to Mr. Straczynski anyhow?

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What ever happened to Mr. Straczynski anyhow?
EDIT: Not Avengers. He's credited with Thor. My bad.

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LazarX wrote:Then they really screwed up because headBaltar and headSix basically say "Every time they've done this, it's failed." With headSix saying, "Maybe they'll get it right this time."Matthew Morris wrote:Charmed should have ended a season earlier.
My complaint about the BSG ending.
<rant> Why would you sentence your children to starvation and early death? I'd rather have seen part of the fleet go off and part stay (So we could see the cycle begin again, with Earth starting 'from scratch' and what would be the 13 colonies with tech.) Instead "Oh, tech is evil, we should all live in huts and die young.</rant>Basically they realised that they had two choices.
1. Try to recreate the Colonies, the same spiritually exhausted state that created it's own self-destruction not once but at least TWICE. Such a decision would have meant extinction for the native hominids.
2. Live as part of the world in the time they had left and give the native species a chance to write their own destiny, not shackled with the failed history of the Twelve Worlds.
Has Avatar Kyoshi once said to Aang. "The consequences of our choices aren't always seen in our lifetime." They made their choice based on what they had learned. Overall, it was a better move to make even if it did not necessarily acheive their goal. But then again they did not neccessarily fail either. After all, Earth hasn't created it's Cylons yet, and it might never do so.

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I thought the ending was just fine and it's still in my top three shows of all time (#1 and #2 are both Firefly, because it's too awesome for just one slot). But you're the only other person I've met who doesn't froth at the mouth when discussing it, so I just keep my head down and say "yup, that show had a lot of flaws. Moving on..."
I have nothing particularly against Firefly despite it's overwhelming number of gaps, SF wise.
But I enjoyed "Serenity" far more than the series itself.

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7. Lost
Worst. Ending. Ever.
Not only did it not make sense, it failed to resolve any plotlines, explained no long-standing mysteries, and was painfully mawkish.I felt like pulling an Elvis on my TV.
Some people felt the same way about Prometheus when they grabbed Damon Lindelof to do the script. I see him getting the potential to become more vilified than Joss Whedon in certain circles.