The AC bonus from Two weapons defense; how is it handled?


Rules Questions


The fighter in my party is going all TWF, and as such he uses a lot the +1 shield bonus to AC granted by the Two weapons defense feat,but we often discuss whether this shield bonus is added to touch AC or not.
I know a shield bonus doesn't add to touch AC, but this isn't a real shield right? I see this more as a dodge bonus (you are good at deflecting attacks while wielding two weapons).
In the end, for me it adds to touch AC, for the other guy it doesn't.
Who is right? I couldn't find an answer on the Corebook.


Gandal wrote:


I know a shield bonus doesn't add to touch AC, [...] I couldn't find an answer on the Corebook.

Does not compute?

PS
The other guy is right, of course.


Even if it doesn't come from a shield, it's still a shield bonus. That means it doesn't add to touch AC or CMD.


I should stop thinking too much and reading the rules as they are written.

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It's a shield bonus, so it doesn't count for touch AC, because the touch AC calculation excludes shield bonuses, not just shields.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Whether a bonus involves Touch AC or not is by this simple test.

If the AC protection involves contact blocking as armor and shields would than it does not count.

IF the AC protection involves avoidance as in Dodge than it would.


LazarX wrote:

Whether a bonus involves Touch AC or not is by this simple test.

If the AC protection involves contact blocking as armor and shields would than it does not count.

IF the AC protection involves avoidance as in Dodge than it would.

I'm pretty sure deflection would count as "contact blocking," so I don't think your test works.

Isn't the rule just that you ignore armor, shield, and natural armor bonuses?


AvalonXQ wrote:


Isn't the rule just that you ignore armor, shield, and natural armor bonuses?

That is indeed the rule for touch AC. Every conceivable type of AC adds to touch except armour, shield, and natural armour.

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