Advanced Talents Ninja Trick


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Okay, so a Ninja can take an advanced rogue talent as a ninja trick. I'm wondering if the Ninja needs the prerequisites for these advanced talents.

Normally I'd assume yes but it's just the third sentence in the ability has me curious.

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Advanced Talents: The ninja can select a rogue talent from the list of Advanced Talents in place of a ninja trick. The ninja cannot select a rogue talent that has the same name as a ninja trick. The ninja cannot select improved evasion unless she has evasion (either as a class feature or as a ninja master trick).

If the case was that you needed the prerequisites for the advanced rogue abilities then why would they specifically say that improved evasion requires evasion? To me this is saying that improved evasion is the exception and you need it's prerequisites but as for the rest, you don't.

Thoughts?


Your logic appears sound and your arguments valid. I concur.


If the rogue talent itself says it has a prerequisite talent, then I would assume you'd have to go by that and not by the lack of text from the ninja entry. Think about it. Why would a ninja get to do something with rogue talents that a rogue can't do? That doesn't make sense. They only call out evasion specifically because evasion itself is a master ninja trick, but a normal class ability for a rogue. So it's not letting ninjas ignore prerequisite talents. It's letting you know that if you want both evasion and improved evasion as a ninja, then you have to select both of them as master ninja tricks.


Improved Evasion doesn't list any prerquisits, that's why it has to be specifically called out.


Shame that it doesn't work for having a ring of Evasion.

Liberty's Edge

Jodokai wrote:
Improved Evasion doesn't list any prerquisits, that's why it has to be specifically called out.

This. Ninjas stil need prerequisites, that's just an additional listed requirement for improved evasion.

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