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CBDunkerson wrote:
Slothsy wrote:
Well, the Gavin Grimm case just got thrown out.

Specifically, the Supreme Court sent it back to the lower court to re-evaluate based on the Trump admin's new position that gender identity is not protected.

There really shouldn't be any change to the ruling because there is already considerable court precedent that gender identity IS protected under gender discrimination laws. Making the executive branch position on the issue irrelevant. However, the fact that SCOTUS used this pretext to throw the case back is not a good sign. To me it seems like the conservative wing is playing for time to get Gorsuch confirmed

Well, the lower court did base their ruling on deference to the government's order, so procedurally, a change in the order does change the case.


Selene Spires wrote:
Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
so would anyone mind if I linked a kickstarter?
I don't mind...though I often don't have the money to back kickstarters.

Thanks for responding.

I'll go ahead and post the link, but maybe not today considering the unhappy political news.

Silver Crusade

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:(

*offers hugs*


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*Burning bright and warm, fueled by caffeine and the hope to get to sleep soonish (all shaped into logs), offering a cozy place for hugs, talk, merryment, smiles and companionship, too tired to make tea himself, though*


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Campfire Elemental wrote:
*Burning bright and warm, fueled by caffeine and the hope to get to sleep soonish (all shaped into logs), offering a cozy place for hugs, talk, merryment, smiles and companionship, too tired to make tea himself, though*

<makes tea, pours gently onto campfire>

<is somewhat bemused by fire elementals desire for liquids.>

<makes smores>


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* walks in with portable liquor cabinet *

Just in case anyone needs anything stronger.

* pulls out confetti cannon *

I think we need to celebrate a few people here.

* sets off confetti cannon *

Go Bob! Go Selene!


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I am actually torn on this issue...

Logically, emotionally, sense of what is Right...I fully support Gavin Grimm and his battle to use the right bathroom...the government should be protecting the minority and the invididuel rights against the majority.

But thinking if I ever have a child that is transgendered...I would probably encourage her to hide at school...because I know what vicious little s@~!s children can be to those who are different...and with bullying on the rise. Sure at home or with close friends my child can get whatever they want to be. But wait till atleast college before coming out. It kind kills me a little to think this way...but really it does not matter what the difference is children hone in on it like sharks with blood in the water.

I should add if my child does want to come out...I would back them 100%...I would just worry alot more.

I hope I have not offended anybody in thinking this way...I really just have alot of bad memories of grade/high school.

Liberty's Edge Developer

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Selene Spires wrote:

I am actually torn on this issue...

Logically, emotionally, sense of what is Right...I fully support Gavin Grimm and his battle to use the right bathroom...the government should be protecting the minority and the invididuel rights against the majority.

But thinking if I ever have a child that is transgendered...I would probably encourage her to hide at school...because I know what vicious little s$@*s children can be to those who are different...and with bullying on the rise. Sure at home or with close friends my child can get whatever they want to be. But wait till atleast college before coming out. It kind kills me a little to think this way...but really it does not matter what the difference is children hone in on it like sharks with blood in the water.

I should add if my child does want to come out...I would back them 100%...I would just worry alot more.

I hope I have not offended anybody in thinking this way...I really just have alot of bad memories of grade/high school.

Hiding does not protect your child from the evils of the world; Trust me on that much if nothing else.

And hiding also means you may survive, but the next trans person to come along has to walk that same difficult path alone like you did. I'm a big believer in leaving the path a little cleaner for whoever has to follow


@Crystal: I know you are right ultimately...as I said too many bad memories of what I went though in school...which more had to do with my speech impediment/ brain damage I was still in denial about myself than...to want to spare my child (if I ever have one) of that is tempting.

Liberty's Edge Developer

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Oh, I understand the need to protect your kids, but the world is a vile place and there will always be things that threaten them no matter what you do. All any of us can do is teach them to protect themselves as best they can, and teach them that we aren't ashamed of them and will always support them

Silver Crusade

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Damn right.

*channels positive feelings and offers hugs to anyone and everyone that wants or needs some*


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A friend of mine who is a trans woman who is married to a trans woman just had a scary incident happen in Seattle. The wife was attacked by several women for being trans. She's ok. She has spent her life practicing self defense and only had to deal with one of them before the rest gathered the fallen and ran off. Yes, a police report has been filed.

This is why I'm terrified to go out alone. Even in a welcoming city like mine, these things happen.


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Okay, so I mentioned that I wanted to post a Kickstarter.

Well, it's a Kickstarter for the "Book of Passion" - Pathfinder rules for sex and romance. I co-authored it and, as a trans woman, I made sure that the book was sex-positive and LGBTQ etc friendly.

The rules for sex are inclusive to any combination of physical sexes or gender identities. There are several ways for a trans character to change physical sex to match his or her actual gender. And there is a chapter devoted to helping GMs create sex-positive societies for any alignment.

The Book of Passion


Bob_Loblaw wrote:
A friend of mine who is a trans woman who is married to a trans woman just had a scary incident happen in Seattle. The wife was attacked by several women for being trans.

I'm so sorry to hear that - that's terrible.

It's because of stuff like this that I rarely present overtly outside my home. Well that and the fact that I can't fit my cell phone and wallet in women's pants.

Also, sorry about the timing of my previous post. I was trying to give some space after the last round of bad news, only to run smack-dab into yours.


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@Crystal:As I said you are right...it is just my own baggage.

@Rysky: *hugs*

@Bob_Loblaw: That is scary...but you can not live your life in fear.

@Zelgadas: I have sent this and have all ready back it...it does look good.

Silver Crusade

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That's horrible, Bob ;_;

*offers hugs to friend by proxy*


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Bob_Loblaw wrote:

A friend of mine who is a trans woman who is married to a trans woman just had a scary incident happen in Seattle. The wife was attacked by several women for being trans. She's ok. She has spent her life practicing self defense and only had to deal with one of them before the rest gathered the fallen and ran off. Yes, a police report has been filed.

This is why I'm terrified to go out alone. Even in a welcoming city like mine, these things happen.

that's monstrous. I'm glad she was able to defend herself, but horrified that it happened in the first place.


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* grabs everyone in a big bear hug and does my darnedest to take away everyone's pain and sadness *

Scarab Sages

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Bob_Loblaw wrote:

A friend of mine who is a trans woman who is married to a trans woman just had a scary incident happen in Seattle. The wife was attacked by several women for being trans. She's ok. She has spent her life practicing self defense and only had to deal with one of them before the rest gathered the fallen and ran off. Yes, a police report has been filed.

This is why I'm terrified to go out alone. Even in a welcoming city like mine, these things happen.

Damn, it is sad to hear that horrible things like those still happen. I am glad she is ok.

*hugs*

Liberty's Edge Developer

Bob_Loblaw wrote:

A friend of mine who is a trans woman who is married to a trans woman just had a scary incident happen in Seattle. The wife was attacked by several women for being trans. She's ok. She has spent her life practicing self defense and only had to deal with one of them before the rest gathered the fallen and ran off. Yes, a police report has been filed.

This is why I'm terrified to go out alone. Even in a welcoming city like mine, these things happen.

Good god. Do you have any additional information on where or when this happened? A newspaper report? My wife and I are both trans and in Seattle


I only have her Facebook post. After reading it again, she's not filing with the police. She's filing with NWN. I don't know what that is.

Liberty's Edge Developer

Bob_Loblaw wrote:
I only have her Facebook post. After reading it again, she's not filing with the police. She's filing with NWN. I don't know what that is.

No idea. Google says "Neverwinter Nights" or "Northwest Nissans."

So, not even a suggestion about where this happened or who was involved?

Dark Archive

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That is troubling news if there has been an anti-trans attack in Seattle. I will have to let my roommates and partner know to be careful. Luckily, they tend not to go out without me and I will defend them or anyone appears to be subject to an anti-LGBT incident.

Scarab Sages

Bob_Loblaw wrote:
I only have her Facebook post. After reading it again, she's not filing with the police. She's filing with NWN. I don't know what that is.

Could it be this or this?

Please, be careful ot there.


It happened in the International District


The group they filed with is called The Northwest Network.


This is my friend's post

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10106232223191668&id=107294 50

Sorry, formatting on my phone is a pain

Liberty's Edge Developer

Bob_Loblaw wrote:

This is my friend's post

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10106232223191668&id=107294 50

Sorry, formatting on my phone is a pain

The link is broken. I hope your friend stays safe.


Maybe she has it set to Friends only. Her wife is shaken, but doing ok. She wasn't hurt. The woman who attacked her was. Not badly, but she got what was coming. Picking a fight is a great way to get into one. Turns out that the attackers didn't know who they were up against.

Anyway, be safe everyone. Acceptance still has a way to go even in welcoming cities.


Bob_Loblaw wrote:
Maybe she has it set to Friends only.

Why is it "m.facebook" at the start? That seems weird to me. Could that be the problem?


That's the mobile version of the site.


Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
Bob_Loblaw wrote:
Maybe she has it set to Friends only.
Why is it "m.facebook" at the start? That seems weird to me. Could that be the problem?

I saved the link with my mobile phone.


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On a different note, Laverne Cox landed a role written for a non-trans actor. In other words, she was hired solely because of her skills.


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Bob_Loblaw wrote:
On a different note, Laverne Cox landed a role written for a non-trans actor. In other words, she was hired solely because of her skills.

It's depressing how transgender actors are always cast as transgender actors. On the one hand, literally nobody else could relate to the character on a fundamental level, but on the other, it kinda sucks that they never get any other role. Glad Laverne's skills are finally being recognized.


I never thought that I would hear of a Hate Crime coming out of Seattle. It seems so incongruous as to border on unreality. Bob, I'm glad your friends are alright.


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* gives everyone a big fluffy bear hug *

Sending out my love and positive vibes to everyone.

And, please, stay safe out there. You all make this world a better place and I am better for knowing you all.

Silver Crusade

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*hops up on top of fluffy cuddly bear*

Seconded.

*channels positive feelings and offers hugs to anyone and everyone that wants or needs some*


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Bob_Loblaw wrote:

A friend of mine who is a trans woman who is married to a trans woman just had a scary incident happen in Seattle. The wife was attacked by several women for being trans. She's ok. She has spent her life practicing self defense and only had to deal with one of them before the rest gathered the fallen and ran off. Yes, a police report has been filed.

This is why I'm terrified to go out alone. Even in a welcoming city like mine, these things happen.

It's awful that those women attacked her, but good on her for knowing how to defend herself.

Just a couple of weeks ago, a group of teens threw s@~% at my best friend as he walked into a gay bar.

In New Friggin' York City.

(I'm sure that CH and FH could tell me more NYC horror stories.)


Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Bob_Loblaw wrote:

A friend of mine who is a trans woman who is married to a trans woman just had a scary incident happen in Seattle. The wife was attacked by several women for being trans. She's ok. She has spent her life practicing self defense and only had to deal with one of them before the rest gathered the fallen and ran off. Yes, a police report has been filed.

This is why I'm terrified to go out alone. Even in a welcoming city like mine, these things happen.

It's awful that those women attacked her, but good on her for knowing how to defend herself.

Just a couple of weeks ago, a group of teens threw s+#* at my best friend as he walked into a gay bar.

In New Friggin' York City.

(I'm sure that CH and FH could tell me more NYC horror stories.)

what the actual f*+~?

Where was this?


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*hugs everyone*

Unfortunately hate is found everywhere. :(

Scarab Sages

*joins hugs*
It is pretty disheartening, but sadly not surprising, that things like this still happen. Hate and bigotry are hard to purge - hopefully when haters like this are identified, they will be persecuted - police and court need to reinforce that our society does not tolerate or condone hatecrimes.


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Here's something I hope everyone finds at least a little bit humorous (and helps brighten your day, especially with some of BS that's been happening)...

First, some background - about 15 years, inspired by a fellow male co-worker, I decided to grow out my hair and donate it to Locks of Love (something I had actually been thinking about doing prior but kept chickening out). It takes about two years for my hair to be long enough to donate. So I've been doing it a few times now.

I have thick hair with a natural wave - each time I have let my hair grow out the wave becomes curlier and curlier until now I have some nice ringlets at the ends. I've had quite a few women I know say how jealous they are of my hair.

Right now my hair is getting close to the length where I'll cut it so it's fairly long and curly.

And now onto the story...

Monday at work I was in the men's restroom washing my hands. In the mirror I see a gentleman walk in, get this embarrassed look on his face, go back out (to confirm he was in the right bathroom), come back in, and ask "Am I in the right bathroom?" I turned around and, as I walked out, said "yep". This is the second or third time this has happened at work.

Of course the first time something like this happened I was at the movie theater. This rather large gentleman came in, took one look at me from behind, walked out, came back in, took another look at me, walked out, and came back in a third time with a look I can only describe as absolute confusion, embarrassment, and fear on his face. By this time I had turned around. He let out quite the sigh of relief. It was what he said next that had me ready to burst out laughing. He said "I thought with your long curly hair you were a woman and I accidentally walked into the wrong bathroom. My wife would kill me if she found out I did that."


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*warmth and light to lighten up dark thoughts and cozyness to enjoy hugs, smiles, conversation, companionship and tea*

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 32

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feytharn wrote:

*joins hugs*

It is pretty disheartening, but sadly not surprising, that things like this still happen. Hate and bigotry are hard to purge - hopefully when haters like this are identified, they will be persecuted - police and court need to reinforce that our society does not tolerate or condone hatecrimes.

While we may win some cases for our basic human rights in the courts, the American legal system and especially the police as an institution have not been and currently are not our allies. Queer communities have to protect themselves, and not rely on corrupt institutions when they can.

Scarab Sages

That is sad to hear. I have a hard time assessing the situation in the US. In Germany (and as far as I can tell in western Europe) attacks on members of the Queer community are handled as any attack would be - though sometimes the courts are a bit hesistant to call it out as 'hate crimes', unless there is a big red mark pointing at the hate group.
Tha latter seems to change right now (more visible with right wing hate groups attacking refugees) as courts and politiks seem to realize the danger coming from the rising rightwing tide.


Selene Spires wrote:

*hugs everyone*

Unfortunately hate is found everywhere. :(

Having been bullied in High School, I understand that, at least. It's just that there are places where you don't expect to hear news like that from. What was I bullied for? Being good at math, of all things. *shrug* Go figure.


Uncle Teddy wrote:
donate it to Locks of Love. It takes about two years for my hair to be long enough to donate. So I've been doing it a few times now.

Awesome! I'm a big fan of Locks of Love. I donate two feet every three years or so.

Even when I cut it for Locks of Love, I keep enough to wear in a pony tail. When it gets long, I tend to wear it down. My long hair is one of the few ways that I get to express my true gender in public, so it's very personally important to me - and, as such, it is important that I give others the same opportunity to express themselves with their hair (via locks of love).

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