Whip Mastery and Cat-o-Nine-Tails


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Scarab Sages

Does the Whip Mastery Feat apply to the Cat-o-Nine-Tails from Pirates of the inner sea. In the descriptive text it is referred to as a whip, but does that satisfy the requirement for the feat? Or does the feat only work for the specific weapon named "Whip"?

Sovereign Court

It would work, but bear in mind:

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A cat-o’-nine-tails, also known as the “captain’s daughter,” is a short whip made of nine knotted thongs about 3 feet in length, designed to lacerate and inflict great pain without doing serious permanent damage.

A cat-o’-nine-tails deals no damage to any creature with an armor bonus of +1 or higher or a natural armor bonus of +3 or higher.

Scarab Sages

Nezthalak wrote:

It would work, but bear in mind:

Quote:

A cat-o’-nine-tails, also known as the “captain’s daughter,” is a short whip made of nine knotted thongs about 3 feet in length, designed to lacerate and inflict great pain without doing serious permanent damage.

A cat-o’-nine-tails deals no damage to any creature with an armor bonus of +1 or higher or a natural armor bonus of +3 or higher.

Not certain what you want me to bear in mind.

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deals no damage to any creature with an armor bonus of +1 or higher or a natural armor bonus of +3 or higher[

This text is identical in both the Whip and Cat-o'-nine-tails.

The Whip Mastery Feat specifically counters this limitation.

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Further, you can deal damage with a whip despite a creature’s armor bonus or natural armor bonus.

That's the part I am really after. Looking at building a Pirate type Fighter (Corsair) that TWF's with a Cutlass and a Cat-o'-nine-tails.


Joko PO wrote:
Does the Whip Mastery Feat apply to the Cat-o-Nine-Tails from Pirates of the inner sea. In the descriptive text it is referred to as a whip, but does that satisfy the requirement for the feat? Or does the feat only work for the specific weapon named "Whip"?

By RAW it wouldn't work, as they are two distinctively different weapons. There would have to be a line in the weapon description that says something to the effect of "this weapon is considered a whip for feats/abilities/etc" for it to work. Description or flavor text doesn't alter the feats/rules.

That being said most DMs that are being reasonable would probably allow/house rule it, but for something like PFS you'd probably be out of luck.

Grand Lodge

The feat works for the Scorpion whip, but it could reasonably go either way for the Cat-o-Nine-Tails.

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