I suppose I'm also making the mistake of lumping Cantrips in with Osirons... big difference if you have to pick one or the other to be able to do at will vs. 3-4 times a day.
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I suppose I'm also making the mistake of lumping Cantrips in with Osirons... big difference if you have to pick one or the other to be able to do at will vs. 3-4 times a day.Nope, it's correct, but Light lasts a lot longer. Also, Light on a pebble, Mage Hand for fake Ioun Stone. I've used that combination to distract people while we came up from the flank. Put light stone in a bad, made hand it over to an area, pull out stone, suddenly people are facing the wrong direction.
Sometimes it comes down to action economy. You're underground, and you use cantrips for light source. In combat, Dancing Lights lasts 1 minute, or 10 rounds, where as Light lasts 10 minutes per level, or 100 rounds at first level. In combat, I'll take Light, outside of combat, Dancing Lights makes a good method of sending a light farther down a tunnel to see what is there.
Light and Dancing Lights are both Arcane spells, but Dancing Lgihts is only an Arcane spell, while Light is available to all casting classes with 0 level spells. Neither spell is expended when cast.
What it comes down to, for me, is usage in combat. Light simply last longer and you don't have to worry about it running out mid combat, where as Dancing Lights will and you may have to spend a turn recasting it.
I was looking to see what would be good as a at will spell-like ability.
There's no one answer to that. What character?
I was looking to see what would be good as a at will spell-like ability.There's no one answer to that. What character?
Sure there is. The answer is Ghost Sound.
You can make sounds just appear, with no one knowing it was you :D
"Pffffft...."
"Really Harsk? I thought you were a clean dwarf?"
"Damnit Lem, KNOCK IT OFF!!"
silent still ghost sound. Greatest Gnome invention ever!
Keeping in mind that the highest level person in real life is, at most, 5th level, we won't have these amazing people that have more ranks in a skill than normal people have in a bonus, failing on a 1 is quite possible. For normal people.
Also, Base AC 10 - 5 Dex + 4 Size - 2 penalty = AC 7 to cut an Onion.
Keeping in mind that the highest level person in real life is, at most, 5th level, we won't have these amazing people that have more ranks in a skill than normal people have in a bonus, failing on a 1 is quite possible. For normal people.
Also, Base AC 10 - 5 Dex + 4 Size - 2 penalty = AC 7 to cut an Onion.
LOL, don't expect universal agreement on that "level 5 max" for humans... Besides, I'd argue that you're using the onions TOUCH AC, not its base AC. I'd put an onion's touch AC at zero.
But if it's an attack roll, the best chef in the PF world will screw that up 1/20 of the time. So figure they will screw up a cutting activity a couple hundred times a day...
Using the "1 is a failure" metric...
Keeping in mind that the highest level person in real life is, at most, 5th level, we won't have these amazing people that have more ranks in a skill than normal people have in a bonus, failing on a 1 is quite possible. For normal people.
Also, Base AC 10 - 5 Dex + 4 Size - 2 penalty = AC 7 to cut an Onion.
LOL, don't expect universal agreement on that "level 5 max" for humans... Besides, I'd argue that you're using the onions TOUCH AC, not its base AC. I'd put an onion's touch AC at zero.
But if it's an attack roll, the best chef in the PF world will screw that up 1/20 of the time. So figure they will screw up a cutting activity a couple hundred times a day...
Using the "1 is a failure" metric...
Might want to click the 5th level link, it explains my reasoning if you already haven't. Truthfully, the link does give a very good reason on why most people are really only going to be around 2nd-3rd level at most. 5th level is the realm of the heroes of legend.
Also, if you had clicked the Onion link, you would know that if you line up your "attack" you automatically hit. So when the chef is multitasking, frying eggs, chopping onions, answering the inane questions of the other person, and talking to the camera, he can't take a full-round to line up, and therefore misses sometimes.
