[Frog God Games] Last Chance To Order Slumbering Tsar Subscription

[Hobbun]

Bill,

I haven't received my shipping email yet, but then it's only been a couple of days since you've begun. However, how long should I wait before I should send a note w/current mailing address?

Thanks.

[Dawn R Fischer]

Hobbun wrote:

Bill,

I haven't received my shipping email yet, but then it's only been a couple of days since you've begun. However, how long should I wait before I should send a note w/current mailing address?

Thanks.

You should have received one by now. Send Bill an email stating this and also make sure you have your current mailing address listed as well.

Bill's email: bill (at) talesofthefroggod (dot) com

[Hobbun]

Ok, just sent the email off to Bill.

Thanks Dawn.

[Dawn R Fischer]

Spinotron wrote:

@Bill

I got Petrefax' same problem with the attachments... I sent an email the moment I read it, to notify the problem of course.

I want to pay (for oversea delivery to Italy), but I can't because there are no buttons and no links.

Should I wait till someone answer me via email?

Sorry, I know Frogs are very busy right now...

I don't know what the email looks like as I did not receive one (and probably should have since I subscribed way back when).

I can only guess what the problem is. All I can tell you to do is to email Bill [bill (at) talesofthefroggod (dot) com], if you haven't already, explaining your difficulty.

[Spinotron]

@D R Fischer
I have emailed Bill, of course. A week ago.
I'm waiting for an answer.
thanks anyway

[DaveMage]

So can those of us who pre-ordered from FGG get the complete (single) PDF anytime soon?

:)

[Skeeter Green]

Not to speak In the Name of Our Frog God, but his earthly avatar (known throughout the land as "Bill") has been pretty darn busy since returning from the mighty jungles down south.

He will reply to everyone, he makes customer service a priority.

Skeeter
Humble Minion of All that Is Slimy and Amphibious

[Dawn R Fischer]

I never assume that someone knows where to send their email. So, I am happy to let them know where to send their questions.

I've been in the Frog God's abode and know how he meticulously processes and prioritizes each email. I don't know how he does it and has time to sleep.

Skeet is right, he will get to each and every email. I know it is hard, but please try to be patient.

Dawn
Frozen Frog of the North

[Spinotron]

Thank you for the answers...
I'll just wait. No problem with that.

[Bill Webb]

Spinotron--send an email to me again--I think Mrs. Frog can set you up.

Bill

[Anguish]

Paid. Happy dance time.

Bill... thanks for putting this stuff out and for doing it in a reasonable way. Even though shipping (to Canada) costs half the price of the book, FGG stuff is worth it.

I just picked up The Black Monastery at my FLGS as an impulse purchase. So far very cool (reading).

[Wolfthulhu]

My email seems fraked. The attachments contain the html code, no buttons at all.

:-/

I did send Bill an email.

[tburke0]

Wolfthulhu wrote:

My email seems fraked. The attachments contain the html code, no buttons at all.

:-/

I did send Bill an email.

I had the same issue. if you read the "Service Description" inside each of the 3 attachments, it will tell you which payment it is:

• International Shipping 1 2 books
  
• Canada Mexico 1 to 2 books
  
• USA Shipping 1 to 2 books
  

Find the email for the payment you need to make, hi-light, copy, and paste into a new browser tab/window the https: URL in the paragraph after the amount:

paypal url wrote:

<https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?-paypal-gobbletygook-highli ght-everything-to-the-greater-than-symbol> Description: Pay Now

That should bring you to payPal and let you login and complete the transaction...

Hope this helps...
Tom

[Wolfthulhu]

That did help, Tom. Thanks.

I figured the information was in there somewhere, just wasn't sure what to grab.

:D

[Itchy]

I got the email and was able to figure it out. I have paid via paypal and am eagerly anticipating the day before my mail carrier curses me and Frog God Games while filing a workers comp claim for back injury received delivering this massive tome of awesomeness to my door. I'll be sure to have a hand truck available to help me get it into the house.

-Aaron

[Kthulhu]

Dawn R Fischer wrote:

There is indeed a single pdf for the entire Slumbering Tsar Saga.

When will this be made available?

[poizen37]

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

Hi Dr. Fever. I did not use HeroLab for the Tsar stat blocks unfortunately. I just crank them all out by hand. That said we have been in talks with HeroLab (though I don't know where Bill is with that). My understanding is that we are moving forward with the maps for d20Pro, though. So those should be available at some point. The HeroLab thing is still up in the air at this point, though.

Greg,

Not saying that I have the time or inclination, but would you or Bill object to a community project that takes up this monumental task? There's quite a few instances where a company has expressed an interest but not the capacity for Herolab. Psionics Unleashed comes to mind, and there was a whole slew of Super Genius community files prior to SGG hiring on a herolab coder.

Just a thought.

[Bill Webb]

Herolab is in the works for all FGG stuff! We are awaiting details on contract revisions.

[Zarathos]

Kthulhu wrote:

Dawn R Fischer wrote:

There is indeed a single pdf for the entire Slumbering Tsar Saga.

When will this be made available?

I also wonder when this will be made available.

[Bill Webb]

as soon as we can workm out the details and have time to convert files

[Dawn R Fischer]

Zarathos wrote:

Kthulhu wrote:

Dawn R Fischer wrote:

There is indeed a single pdf for the entire Slumbering Tsar Saga.

When will this be made available?

I also wonder when this will be made available.

I stand corrected. I thought there was one, but it is the chapter by chapter files that all subscribers should already have. I apologize for reading more into what Bill and Greg told me months ago.

Actually this makes sense as the entire thing would be a hefty chunk for any small platform utility such as an ipad or similar device.

[Bill Webb]

and the bonus chapter is ONLY for the hardcover book buyers of the 1st edition..it is NOT in any pdf files

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

So, there won't be a single .pdf for the version of Slumbering Tsar that was sent to the printer? That's a little depressing, to be honest. I was hoping for one that had any error corrections that have been caught since the first module was released. If there won't be a single massive .pdf will there at least be updated versions of the .pdfs with any errata that has been identified?

I apologize if I'm misunderstanding the situation...

[Zarathos]

So, to be clear, I understand that there will be compiled single pdf without the bonus chapter. In particular, I hope for a correction of the Tome of Horrors page numbers for the earlier chapters that referenced the 3.5e version before the completion of Tome of Horrors Complete.

[Itchy]

Dawn R Fischer wrote:

I stand corrected. I thought there was one, but it is the chapter by chapter files that all subscribers should already have. I apologize for reading more into what Bill and Greg told me months ago.

Actually this makes sense as the entire thing would be a hefty chunk for any small platform utility such as an ipad or similar device.

@Zarathos: If I am understanding Dawn's message here, she is saying that there will NOT be a single compiled pdf without the bonus chapter. Subscribers who ordered before the deadline will receive the following:

-14 individual chapter pdf's
-a physical, dead-tree book which includes the bonus chapter.

Regarding fixes for Tome of Horrors page numbers; I would recommend jotting down the page number errors as you find them, compile them into a single email and send them in to Frog God Games. They can then make corrections and reissue the pdf's. I have done this with another 3pp and mistakes were fixed.

I used this sort of formula:
In The Adventure on page #WW, the Monster is listed as appearing on page XX of the Tome of Horrors. The Monster is actually found on page YY of the new Tome of Horrors.

I'm willing to bet that the Frogs would LOVE to fix those sort of errors, but don't currently have the time to comb through to find and correct them all. If you send them the info, I'd bet money that the fixes would come through on the pdf's; maybe not right away, but after things slow down there a bit.

-Aaron

[Kthulhu]

Yeah. Keep in mind that the Frogs are now also engaged in their other massive project, Rappan Athuk.

[Zarathos]

Bill mentioned specifically the following: "as soon as we can work out details and have time to convert files and the bonus chapter is ONLY for the hardcover book buyers of the 1st edition....it is NOT in any pdf files." Dawn thought the complied pdf was available immediately for download.

Hence, my belief that there will be eventually a single compiled pdf without the bonus chapter.

If I don't hear anything else, I will ask Bill about at NTRPG Convention in June. Yes, the Frogs are engaged in great and wonderful project so everybody get those pledges in.

[Bill Webb]

Bonus chapter will never be a pdf--same for bonus level book w/ RA--they are intentionally collectable--as a bonus to folks who did us a solid by making the products possible.

[Zarathos]

Bill Webb wrote:

Bonus chapter will never be a pdf--same for bonus level book w/ RA--they are intentionally collectable--as a bonus to folks who did us a solid by making the products possible.

But how about having Chuck strip out the bonus chapter of the book recently provided to the printer and giving the pdf of said book to only subscribers of the hardcover?

Thanks for the response, Bill - James R.

[Greg A. Vaughan]

The combined dead-tree book does have the updated TOHC page numbers for the stat blocks that you're speaking of.

[Zarathos]

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

The combined dead-tree book does have the updated TOHC page numbers for the stat blocks that you're speaking of.

Most excellent, which is all the more reason that I would love to have pdf of the combined book minus the bonus chapter.

Thanks, Greg

[Martin Kauffman 530]

Will this product be available for purchase through local gaming stores? I usually only buy products through gaming stores as I am an old grognard who believes in supporting the gaming hobby by buying from gaming stores which enable gamers to use their facilities for role-playing.

[Dawn R Fischer]

Martin Kauffman 530 wrote:

Will this product be available for purchase through local gaming stores? I usually only buy products through gaming stores as I am an old grognard who believes in supporting the gaming hobby by buying from gaming stores which enable gamers to use their facilities for role-playing.

...This is what happens when I am running on three hours sleep. I thought this question appeared in the Rappan Athuk thread. So I apologize for confusion.

ST is not going to be (as far as I know) available in most gaming stores, with the exception of a few who have already placed their orders with Bill.

[Leonal]

Martin Kauffman 530 wrote:

Will this product be available for purchase through local gaming stores? I usually only buy products through gaming stores as I am an old grognard who believes in supporting the gaming hobby by buying from gaming stores which enable gamers to use their facilities for role-playing.

Unless such stores preordered the book themselves, I highly doubt it.

Slumbering Tsar was originally a pre-order only (from FGG at least with the lower price tag), but then Paizo bought X amount of copies too.

Get it while it's still available! :)

[Leonal]

Dawn R Fischer wrote:

Martin Kauffman 530 wrote:

Will this product be available for purchase through local gaming stores? I usually only buy products through gaming stores as I am an old grognard who believes in supporting the gaming hobby by buying from gaming stores which enable gamers to use their facilities for role-playing.

One of our reasons for using kickstarter to help fund this book was to get it available, through distribution, to gaming stores. We haven't gotten as far as determining which distributor(s) might carry the book, yet. But we will!

I think this is about Tsar and not Rappan Athuk. ^^

[Dragnmoon]

Has Tsar shipped yet?

[Dark Sasha]

Dragnmoon wrote:

Has Tsar shipped yet?

It has not.

[Greg A. Vaughan]

Zarathos wrote:

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

The combined dead-tree book does have the updated TOHC page numbers for the stat blocks that you're speaking of.

Most excellent, which is all the more reason that I would love to have pdf of the combined book minus the bonus chapter.

Thanks, Greg

Just got off the phone with Bill. We officially ARE going to do a combined pdf of the whole book minus the bonus chapter. It will be available:

--For free to subscribers
--For free to those who purchase the big dead-tree book without subscription
--AS a pdf for sale to those who haven't bought the big book (don't know the price yet)

It will include all the errata we have compiled and the updates of stat block references to the TOHC, plus all the little add-ins I included in the final editorial pass that will appear int he big book.
Once again, it will NOT include the bonus chapter. That is a special subscriber, dead-tree thing only

One final note: Since we had our wires crossed and hadn't gotten started on this pdf, it is likely to not be ready at the time we ship the book but will trail along some time after due to the work crunch we've got right now with the Rappan Athuk Kickstarter (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/froggodgames/rappan-athuk).

So that's all good news, I think. :-)

[Bill Webb]

Have any game store you want contact me. We simply have production costs too high to sell through normal distribution. It just costs us more than 40% to make books like we do--else we would hav eto dramatically increase prices. I sell direct to many brick and mortar stores--but not through distributors (yet:))

[Zarathos]

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

Zarathos wrote:

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

The combined dead-tree book does have the updated TOHC page numbers for the stat blocks that you're speaking of.

Most excellent, which is all the more reason that I would love to have pdf of the combined book minus the bonus chapter.

Thanks, Greg

Just got off the phone with Bill. We officially ARE going to do a combined pdf of the whole book minus the bonus chapter. It will be available:

--For free to subscribers
--For free to those who purchase the big dead-tree book without subscription
--AS a pdf for sale to those who haven't bought the big book (don't know the price yet)

It will include all the errata we have compiled and the updates of stat block references to the TOHC, plus all the little add-ins I included in the final editorial pass that will appear int he big book.
Once again, it will NOT include the bonus chapter. That is a special subscriber, dead-tree thing only

One final note: Since we had our wires crossed and hadn't gotten started on this pdf, it is likely to not be ready at the time we ship the book but will trail along some time after due to the work crunch we've got right now with the Rappan Athuk Kickstarter (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/froggodgames/rappan-athuk).

So that's all good news, I think. :-)

That is most excellent news, Greg. Also I sent you a PM in case you read this first. Thanks again!

[Martin Kauffman 530]

Thanks for the info; but I will pass on the product until it becomes available at Compleat Strategist, my local gaming store.

[Shem]

Martin, it will likely not become available at your local gaming store unless they happened to preordered some.

[Chuck Wright]

Edit - Oops, I had my products mixed up.

Shem is correct, if your store didn't purchase the book on pre-order (quite a few did) then they won't have any copies for sale.

[Kthulhu]

Martin - Yeah, and unless you make the owner of your store aware of Rappan Athuk, I wouldn't put hard money on it appearing there either.

It's all well and good to support your FLGS (assuming you have one), but one thing you have to accept is that they probably will not stock everything you have an interest in.

[mach1.9pants]

Wow it is coming on apace, I am so looking forward to beating my players to death with, uh sorry I mean beating the PCs to death with this book!

[Bill Webb]

Have stores contact me directly.

[e-mail]

[theneofish]

Bill Webb wrote:

Herolab is in the works for all FGG stuff! We are awaiting details on contract revisions.

Seriously. That is fantastic news.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

Just got off the phone with Bill. We officially ARE going to do a combined pdf of the whole book minus the bonus chapter. It will be available:

--For free to subscribers
--For free to those who purchase the big dead-tree book without subscription
--AS a pdf for sale to those who haven't bought the big book (don't know the price yet)

It will include all the errata we have compiled and the updates of stat block references to the TOHC, plus all the little add-ins I included in the final editorial pass that will appear int he big book.
Once again, it will NOT include the bonus chapter. That is a special subscriber, dead-tree thing only

One final note: Since we had our wires crossed and hadn't gotten started on this pdf, it is likely to not be ready at the time we ship the book but will trail along some time after due to the work crunch we've got right now with the Rappan Athuk Kickstarter (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/froggodgames/rappan-athuk).

So that's all good news, I think. :-)

Greg, this is EXACTLY the kind of good news about ST that I was hoping for. While obviously I'd have been thrilled to find out that this .pdf would be available when the hardcover shipped, I totally understand that FGG has a lot of very big irons in the fire right now. As long as this great updated .pdf of the complete ST saga doesn't get pushed TOO far onto the backburners then I'll count myself lucky and thankful that it's getting released at all.

Not to mention I'll have a little time on my hands before I GM ST anyway, thanks to the Skull and Shackles AP being next up on my group's campaign list (my players are going to be wishing a pox upon Richard Pett very soon methinks :P ).

[Greg A. Vaughan]

I may have overstated the time lag on the pdf. From talking with Chuck, he doesn't seem to think it'll be too bad at all. So it may not even be an issue after all. :-)

[Kthulhu]

Dr. Johnny Fever wrote:

I totally understand that FGG has a lot of very big irons in the fire right now.

FGG has pretty much kept a few big irons in the fire since they began.