Defending Weapon


Rules Questions


Does a +1 defending weapon grant a +1 bonus to AC, or +2? Meaning, does the 'defending' property count as a +1 enhancement?


Defending means only that when you attack with the weapon the numerical bonus, +1 in the case of a +1 defending longsowrd, is also granted to ac. Not a +2.


Von is incorrect. A defending weapon allows you to choose to transfer the numerical enhancement (+1 to +5) to your AC instead of the weapon. The +x descriptor for effects such as defending or flaming burst is only to aid in pricing and adds nothing to the numerical enhancement bonus.


It's a bit costly for the benefit it provides. Makes it kind of hard to purchase such a weapon.

Thanks for responding.


yes your correct it is transfered not shared. but didnt i read somewhere that you had to attack with the weapon now? either way its just the +1 that goes to ac.


Von Marshal wrote:
yes your correct it is transfered not shared. but didnt i read somewhere that you had to attack with the weapon now? either way its just the +1 that goes to ac.

Yes I'm fairly sure that the devs confirmed that you need to actively use the weapon in order to benefit from the transfer/


Caius wrote:
Von Marshal wrote:
yes your correct it is transfered not shared. but didnt i read somewhere that you had to attack with the weapon now? either way its just the +1 that goes to ac.
Yes I'm fairly sure that the devs confirmed that you need to actively use the weapon in order to benefit from the transfer/

Do you know where that was said, Caius? I'd love to see it. Defending weapons can bring up a lot of cheese with a certain set of players, and I'd love to be able to debunk that authoritatively. Any idea where it was posted?

Liberty's Edge

Brogue The Rogue wrote:
Caius wrote:
Von Marshal wrote:
yes your correct it is transfered not shared. but didnt i read somewhere that you had to attack with the weapon now? either way its just the +1 that goes to ac.
Yes I'm fairly sure that the devs confirmed that you need to actively use the weapon in order to benefit from the transfer/
Do you know where that was said, Caius? I'd love to see it. Defending weapons can bring up a lot of cheese with a certain set of players, and I'd love to be able to debunk that authoritatively. Any idea where it was posted?

FAQ link.


Neato, thanks. :)


If my Magus (or Paladins divine bond) uses his arcane pool to enhance his weapon, can he use the bonus with the defending property? Ex:

1) I have a +1 defending sword
2) I use my arcane pool to bring it to a +3

Can I now use the defending property with a +3?


Arcaleth wrote:

If my Magus (or Paladins divine bond) uses his arcane pool to enhance his weapon, can he use the bonus with the defending property? Ex:

1) I have a +1 defending sword
2) I use my arcane pool to bring it to a +3

Can I now use the defending property with a +3?

Don't see why not.

Grand Lodge

Question about Stacking Bonus for Defending Weapon Ability.

Weapon Special Ability: Defending: Description
"A defending weapon allows the wielder to transfer some or all the weapon's enhancement bonus to his AC as a bonus that stacks with all others. ..."

If I am a monk and I have a +3 Defending Brass Knuckles in my main hand and a +4 Defending Brass Knuckles in my off hand, can I add +7 to my AC? Will the bonuses from both weapons stack?


Nope. They are from the same source since it is the same enhancement affect. You will only have the larger bonus.

Grand Lodge

But it's not an enhancement bonus. It is "a bonus that stacks with all others."


Ow Mai Bak wrote:
But it's not an enhancement bonus. It is "a bonus that stacks with all others."

The source is Defending Weapon. The enhancement bonus is simply the numerical value.


Now for some real hate and discontent:

I have a +2 Defending weapon with a +3 from Greater Magic weapon:
Which bonus can I apply to my AC?
Does the other bonus still apply to hit and for damage?


Ow Mai Bak wrote:
But it's not an enhancement bonus. It is "a bonus that stacks with all others."

Let me put it another way. The source is the defending property so its the same source.

Dark Archive

thorin001 wrote:

Now for some real hate and discontent:

I have a +2 Defending weapon with a +3 from Greater Magic weapon:
Which bonus can I apply to my AC?
Does the other bonus still apply to hit and for damage?

I think the simplest and most consistent ruling is that a +2 Defending weapon with +3 from GMW acts in all ways as a +3 Defending weapon except those excluded by the spell description (does not overcome DR other than magic). This is in the territory of would need to be explicit that it can work otherwise it does not.


Kalahen wrote:
thorin001 wrote:

Now for some real hate and discontent:

I have a +2 Defending weapon with a +3 from Greater Magic weapon:
Which bonus can I apply to my AC?
Does the other bonus still apply to hit and for damage?

I think the simplest and most consistent ruling is that a +2 Defending weapon with +3 from GMW acts in all ways as a +3 Defending weapon except those excluded by the spell description (does not overcome DR other than magic). This is in the territory of would need to be explicit that it can work otherwise it does not.

That would be easiest, but by RAW there are 2 overlapping (3 if you include masterwork) enhancement bonuses in play. Normally this is moot as you only have one use for the enhancement bonus(es), but it becomes relevant when you have multiple uses.

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