The "Uncustomary space limitation" entry has been removed from the table "No space limitation5" exists anymore. So there are no rules anymore for creating a Vest of Strength because you simply cannot do that anymore. You could only create an Ioun Stone of Strength or a Brooch of Strength according to the rules.Incorrect. There is no uncustomary space limitation modifier because there is no longer uncustomary space limitations. It doesn't matter or penalize you for which slot you apply the effect to. In 3.5 you suffered a penalty for placing effects on certain body slots instead of others. That penalty was removed in Pathfinder.
Additionally, "No Space Limitation" has this to say: "3 An item that does not take up one of the spaces on a body costs double."
It just needs to take up a space on the body. Plain and simple. Otherwise it costs double (such as with an ioun stone).
So it would be entirely possible to make your brooch of strength, ioun stone of strength (for double the cost), or add strength to your Cloak of Resistance for +50% of the cost.
A Cloak of Strength wouldn't cost more than a Belt of Strength according to that table. It takes up a slot on your body? Check. So no increase in cost. Or was the increased cost supposed to come from the multiple abilities? Then it should be +50%... depends on which one is the one more expensive though ;)
A Cloak of Strength wouldn't cost more than a Belt of Strength according to that table. It takes up a slot on your body? Check. So no increase in cost. Or was the increased cost supposed to come from the multiple abilities? Then it should be +50%... depends on which one is the one more expensive though ;)
Correct. It wouldn't cost more if it was just strength, and you are absolutely correct that it was because it was due to multiple abilities on the same body slot.
I was showing
1) Cost of Strength on a slot.
2) Cost of Strength without a slot.
3) Cost of Strength and Resistance on a slot (2 abilities).
It's very comforting to know you're paying attention. I sometimes wonder if people are. :o
EDIT: To give another example, let's look at how new abilities are added.
Sometimes, lack of funds or time make it impossible for a magic item crafter to create the desired item from scratch. Fortunately, it is possible to enhance or build upon an existing magic item. Only time, gold, and the various prerequisites required of the new ability to be added to the magic item restrict the type of additional powers one can place.The cost to add additional abilities to an item is the same as if the item was not magical, less the value of the original item. Thus, a +1 longsword can be made into a +2 vorpal longsword, with the cost to create it being equal to that of a +2 vorpal sword minus the cost of a +1 longsword.
If the item is one that occupies a specific place on a character's body, the cost of adding any additional ability to that item increases by 50%. For example, if a character adds the power to confer invisibility to her ring of protection +2, the cost of adding this ability is the same as for creating a ring of invisibility multiplied by 1.5.
In this case you're creating a "new" item, by making a +2 ring of protection of invisibility. Good stuff.
A Cloak of Strength wouldn't cost more than a Belt of Strength according to that table. It takes up a slot on your body? Check. So no increase in cost. Or was the increased cost supposed to come from the multiple abilities? Then it should be +50%... depends on which one is the one more expensive though ;)Correct. It wouldn't cost more if it was just strength, and you are absolutely correct that it was because it was due to multiple abilities on the same body slot.
I was showing
1) Cost of Strength on a slot.
2) Cost of Strength without a slot.
3) Cost of Strength and Resistance on a slot (2 abilities).It's very comforting to know you're paying attention. I sometimes wonder if people are. :o
But your example shows that Paizo never intended us to be to create a Bracer of Dex. Because then suddenly we could create any bonus on any slot. And thats really FUBAR :)
Finally I don't agree with everything Paizo intends us to do differently from 3.5 ;)
But your example shows that Paizo never intended us to be to create a Bracer of Dex. Because then suddenly we could create any bonus on any slot. And thats really FUBAR :)
Finally I don't agree with everything Paizo intends us to do differently from 3.5 ;)
Nor do I, in some cases. But this confuses me. How does the example show that Paizo never intended us to create bracers of Dexterity? We already CAN create any bonus on any slot. The slot doesn't matter, only that it is a slot. :P
There are 15 slots on the body. All worn magic items take up one of these slots. The type of magic item doesn't matter. A cloak or a cape for example are two different items, but they both use the shoulders slot. The slots prevent you from loading your character down with a metric ton of magic items that all do different things. For example, if you didn't have body slots, you could conceivably wear 10 rings, 2 earrings, a circlet, however many belts you could wrap around yourself (you might even end up looking like Hennet the 3.x Iconic Sorcerer), and so on and so forth.
As far as the rules are concerned, it doesn't matter what area of the body you place something, as long as it takes up the appropriate slot, and multiple items in the same area do not work.
So while you could have Gauntlets of Strength +2 and Bracers of Armor +2, you couldn't have Gauntlets of Strength +2 and Gloves of Dexterity +2, because in the latter case they are using up the same slot.
Otherwise, there is no mechanical difference between a Cloak of Resistance and a Ring of Resistance, other than the body slot that you're using. The actual mechanical benefit is the same.
Otherwise, there is no mechanical difference between a Cloak of Resistance and a Ring of Resistance, other than the body slot that you're using. The actual mechanical benefit is the same.
Actually the cloak weighs 1 pound, the ring weighs nothing :P
Otherwise, there is no mechanical difference between a Cloak of Resistance and a Ring of Resistance, other than the body slot that you're using. The actual mechanical benefit is the same.Actually the cloak weighs 1 pound, the ring weighs nothing :P
Hahaha. Wow...that made me laugh. XD
Yeah, ok, you win on that one. :P
But it doesn't change your overall weight, since if you planned to fill up your slots (and you should) it will end up the same in the long run. XD