Silence and will saves


Rules Questions

Liberty's Edge

Do all creatures in the area of a Silence spell receive a will save to be able to ignore it, or does the spell only allow a save from a creature if targeted on that creature in such a way that the creature becomes the origin point of the 20-foot radius of silence? (And, in the second place, the spell has no effect.)


Only if the creature is directly targeted I believe.


one of my parties favourite tricks is to cast silence on a rock or other mundane item the party meatshield then charges into battle with. No save for the spellcaster he's beating to death


Each unwilling creatures and magic items that emit sound in the silence spell's area of effect may make a Will save or use Spell Resistance to negate the effect of the spell upon them.

Pathfinder Reference Document--Silence wrote:


Area 20-ft.-radius emanation centered on a creature, object, or point in space
[...]
Saving Throw: Will negates; see text or none (object); Spell Resistance: yes; see text or no (object)
[...]
An unwilling creature can attempt a Will save to negate the spell and can use spell resistance, if any. Items in a creature's possession or magic items that emit sound receive the benefits of saves and spell resistance, but unattended objects and points in space do not.
Pathfinder Reference Document--Magic wrote:

Area: Some spells affect an area. Sometimes a spell description specifies a specially defined area, but usually an area falls into one of the categories defined below.

Regardless of the shape of the area, you select the point where the spell originates, but otherwise you don't control which creatures or objects the spell affects.
[...]
Saving Throw
Usually a harmful spell allows a target to make a saving throw to avoid some or all of the effect. The saving throw entry in a spell description defines which type of saving throw the spell allows and describes how saving throws against the spell work.

Negates: The spell has no effect on a subject that makes a successful saving throw.

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