I just made a caster with an 8 STR, but after equipping him its extremely hard to stay below the light load.
With Traveler's outfit, Backpack, bedroll, waterskin, rations (7days), and a Quarterstaff he is going over his allotted weight. Is this right? I thought i had seen someone saying that outfits don't count if your wearing it. Also I was thinking of Quarterstaff more for image and a walking stick. I could drop it the moment in battle for those logistics. But in just traveling to calculate speed I don't think it should hinder you.
Any comments?
This is one of the downsides of a low strength, you cant carry much. There are a few options, like the masterwork backpack out of the APG which lets you count as having +1 str for the purposes of determining carrying capacity.
But everything you carry counts toward your carrying capacity (and thus effects your speed) including a Quarter Staff.
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This is one of the downsides of a low strength, you cant carry much. There are a few options, like the masterwork backpack out of the APG which lets you count as having +1 str for the purposes of determining carrying capacity.
Of course, it also weighs more than a regular backpack, so your net gain is pretty small.
But hey, wizards tend to be pompous and pretensious, right? Just make the fighter carry your crap for you. Or get a hireling.
Low strength to save points has negative effects on the character. Just be glad you didn't cut it all the way back to 7. And remember, 50 coins is 1 lb.
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There's a reason there's a price for mules in the book -- move your food and bedding to the mule, carry only what you need, and you'll be fine at least until you're high enough level to be able to Ant Haul yourself for the whole (adventuring) day, afford Muleback cords, or a Handy Haversack.
Carry one less day's worth of rations? Or give it to someone on your team to carry?
also, dont forget to include the weight of your spellbooks and component pouch.
also, dont forget to include the weight of your spellbooks and component pouch.
. . . or maybe one day's rations :X
It might be better to have a sack instead of a backpack and carry the rations in there. You move slower, but you can drop the sack as a free action.
Eat alot of protien and lift some weights...
also, dont forget to include the weight of your spellbooks and component pouch.
Its a Witch, so no spell book. I did add in the spell pouch. Also I was planning on having my Weasel Familiar in my backpack at the top. So he can stick his head out and look around or jump out if i need him too. Cant find weight of weasel in the Bestiary so do i get to count him as weightless?
Also Carrying is different from wearing something so do i not have to count my Traveler's outfit? And for the Quarterstaff, can i exclude it for traveling rules? Not for combat movement rules, being that it helps people travel as a walking stick?
also, dont forget to include the weight of your spellbooks and component pouch.Its a Witch, so no spell book. I did add in the spell pouch. Also I was planning on having my Weasel Familiar in my backpack at the top. So he can stick his head out and look around or jump out if i need him too. Cant find weight of weasel in the Bestiary so do i get to count him as weightless?
Also Carrying is different from wearing something so do i not have to count my Traveler's outfit? And for the Quarterstaff, can i exclude it for traveling rules? Not for combat movement rules, being that it helps people travel as a walking stick?
weasel is about 0.5 lb
Wearing clothes counts as carrying them.
the weasel probably weights the same as a cat, so a few pounds.
is this character for pfs? if so, you have to count the clothes and stick. there is a post some where from a developer about it. basically says he home rules you dont, but by raw you have to. dumbing str sucks. if you go too low, you have to worry about ability draining creatures too.
the weasel probably weights the same as a cat, so a few pounds.
checked the weight of a weasel, it's about 60g->115g or 0.125lb -> 0.25 lb
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Something else that might help, maybe. A DC10 Survival check is all that is required to feed yourself in the wild (+1 person fed for every 2 over DC10.) You can probably afford to cut back to three days' rations or less if you've got a competent survivalist in the party. If you don't mind sleeping above the sheets or on the grass, swapping your bedroll for a winter blanket will free up another 2lbs and, if you've got a cleric in the party with a Create Water prepared, trade out the waterskin for a mug.
If none of that works, ask your GM to let you buy a Radio Flyer. Pulling a wagon would allow you to carry more and your weasel could ride on top of the load wearing a little cowboy hat.
Something else that might help, maybe. A DC10 Survival check is all that is required to feed yourself in the wild (+1 person fed for every 2 over DC10.) You can probably afford to cut back to three days' rations or less if you've got a competent survivalist in the party. If you don't mind sleeping above the sheets or on the grass, swapping your bedroll for a winter blanket will free up another 2lbs and, if you've got a cleric in the party with a Create Water prepared, trade out the waterskin for a mug.
You might want to be careful with that -- it halves your party's overland speed to forage and hunt.
Bah, who needs survival? Profession (Chef). Cook your enemies. You're a witch. Just cackle while you do. Be careful when bending over the oven if you have two German kids in your gingerbread house, though.
Seriously, though, aside from intelligent creatures and undead, it's reasonable to enjoy some monster jerky after a hard won battle, no?
Are you particularily attached to your race? If you were a small character your total weight would be 9.75lbs, and your carrying capacity would be 19.75lbs.
This is due to an odd way weights are set up for smaller creatures. A lot items are 1/4 the weight that they are for medium characters, arms and Definitely a tad bit of overkill to solve for a problem that will go away after a few days of rations have been eaten.
As a side note, though it doesn't explicitly say that a large creatures mundane items are 4x as heavy one could assume the same pattern would follow, so.... a large you with the same gear would have a weight of 102lbs, but only a light load capacity of 52 lbs (assuming no adjustment for str)
Of course my math or something else could be off somewhere here, but as far as i'm aware this should be accurate. As i realize a large chunk of this is just me airing my ponderings i apologize.
One other idea, if you're not opposed to having your familiar share some of your burden, you could possibly equip him with the means of holding onto a few days worth of your rations.
Are you particularily attached to your race? If you were a small character your total weight would be 9.75lbs, and your carrying capacity would be 19.75lbs.
This is due to an odd way weights are set up for smaller creatures. A lot items are 1/4 the weight that they are for medium characters, arms and Definitely a tad bit of overkill to solve for a problem that will go away after a few days of rations have been eaten.
As a side note, though it doesn't explicitly say that a large creatures mundane items are 4x as heavy one could assume the same pattern would follow, so.... a large you with the same gear would have a weight of 102lbs, but only a light load capacity of 52 lbs (assuming no adjustment for str)
Of course my math or something else could be off somewhere here, but as far as i'm aware this should be accurate. As i realize a large chunk of this is just me airing my ponderings i apologize.
One other idea, if you're not opposed to having your familiar share some of your burden, you could possibly equip him with the means of holding onto a few days worth of your rations.
Good point, but then he loses out on the possibility of a bonus to Int. No small race I can think of has one, while all of the core mediums except dwarf do (or can) have one.
Although I played a lil blaster who carried a wand of reduce person so he could sit on the shoulder of medium characters and be their portable cannon. No need to worry about encumbrance when the ranger archer IS your mount.
One other idea, if you're not opposed to having your familiar share some of your burden, you could possibly equip him with the means of holding onto a few days worth of your rations.
"Wow, it has been a long, long day, friend weasel. Time to have a hearty meal and get some sleep for the night. Where's my rations?"
BURP. "Your rations? I thought that was MY SHARE of OUR RATIONS. I've already eaten, master." BURP.
Just because it is a familar doesn't mean he won't get into the food supplies he is carrying.
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StuffGood point, but then he loses out on the possibility of a bonus to Int. No small race I can think of has one, while all of the core mediums except dwarf do (or can) have one.
Although I played a lil blaster who carried a wand of reduce person so he could sit on the shoulder of medium characters and be their portable cannon. No need to worry about encumbrance when the ranger archer IS your mount.
There is the Wayang, one of the new dragon empire races, but i'm not sure how well that would fly over for his group etc.
Now convincing the archer to wear a saddle for you might take some serious roleplaying
Get the barbarian to wear a backpack backwards (i.e., on his chest), with you inside.
Why am I picturing a papoose here?
Get the barbarian to wear a backpack backwards (i.e., on his chest), with you inside.
Hopefully his battlecry doesn't involve any chest pounding.
I keep on getting flash backs of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. Who runs barter town? Master Blaster.
Take a monk's outfit. It only weighs 2lbs.
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Just make the fighter carry your crap for you.
Bingo! This is what ah plan to do! Bein' a wee little halfling, ah have less strength (7 str) and lighter armor than the big folks. But if ah'm gonna be runnin' up to heal me allies in a fight, ah wanna have some armor on me for protection! So ta move faster, ah count on the blessings of Desna to lengthen me stride (Travel Domain), and make someone else carry mah bedroll, rations, and waterskin. And if they refuse, ah just make it clear that ah might not be fast enough to get to them with healin' should they need it.
Wasn't there a feat or trait I thought I saw that allows you to carry more? Like you can pack things so they take up less space or your Strength is 2 pts higher for carrying capacity only?
First, be thankful you didn't dump CHA, 'cause you know, I mean, that's just wrong, Dude.
Now that I got that out of the way, strip your load down to the minimum and see if the party is willing to go in for mule.
Regarding your outfit -- you may not have to count the weight of it if you are wearing it.
It used to be clear in 3.5 that you didn't have to; this was omitted in Pathfinder rules but not ruled explicitly the opposite way. James Jacobs posted some time ago that it was more likely an error of omission, but not something they felt worth putting in the errata. In his games (per that link) he does not have people count clothing worn toward encumbrance.
Unfortunately since it's NOT in the rules explicitly, we just have a Dev saying what he prefers personally, you'll have to get the OK from your GM.
But that is a way to get back some room to carry things.
As for other ways to lighten the load --
-- You're a caster, use floating disk
-- Buy a mule
-- Hire an untrained hireling
-- If you have 50 GP to spare, buy a Masterwork Backpack (treats your Strength as +1 higher for carrying capacity)
-- As others note, ask a party member to carry it. :)
In a 3.5 game I played in, I played an archeologist by occupation who had way more excavation equipment than she could easily carry (medium load). We also had a warforged join the party (sentient construct; this was an Eberron game) who had no name. My character promptly named her "Porter" and handed her her backpack. :)
When my character DID have to carry her own stuff, I would just drop my backpack (free action) before fighting to get rid of the penalties (she was a rogue/ranger by build, so I did need the mobility). That does bring the risk of losing the backpack of course, but I think that's fair.