Brianide |
Under core combat rules, readying a shield (which I am assuming means drawing and buckling it, so correct me if I'm wrong there), is a move action.
Then we get this addenudum:
If you have a base attack bonus of +1 or higher, you can combine one of these actions with a regular move. If you have the Two-Weapon Fighting feat, you can draw two light or one-handed weapons in the time it would normally take you to draw one.
This leads me to believe that I can pull my sword and heavy or light shield off my back during a regular move, provided I have TWF.
Now, the quickdraw shield states this:
If you have a base attack bonus of +1 or higher, you may don or put away a quickdraw shield as a swift action combined with a regular move. If you have the Two-Weapon Fighting feat, you can draw a light or one-handed weapon with one hand and a quickdraw shield with the other in the time it would normally take you to draw one weapon.
Isn't this behavior inherent to all shields? What makes the quickdraw shield special? It seems like the language here implicitly limits what you could do with regular shields.
Help me out, please!
Jiggy RPG Superstar 2015 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32 |
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So, what if you have quick draw?
The Quickdraw feat lets you draw a weapon as a free action, but that doesn't extend to retrieving stored items (or even drawing wands, which are otherwise considered "weapon-like" enough for the free-during-a-move draw).
Since it doesn't affect anything but drawing a weapon, it has no impact on shield usage, except as specified by the Quickdraw Shield text.
blackbloodtroll |
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You could draw a shield as a weapon, I imagine, with Quick Draw, but still could not ready it for use as a shield.
If all you want is to bash people with it, by RAW at least, go to town. But you can't ready a shield as if it were a weapon--it's a totally different action.
That is true, but what about a quickdraw shield?
mplindustries |
mplindustries wrote:That is true, but what about a quickdraw shield?You could draw a shield as a weapon, I imagine, with Quick Draw, but still could not ready it for use as a shield.
If all you want is to bash people with it, by RAW at least, go to town. But you can't ready a shield as if it were a weapon--it's a totally different action.
Quickdraw Shields let you ready a shield as a swift action. You're still readying a shield, and Quickdraw, the feat, does nothing to alter the way readying a shield works.
Grick |
what about a quickdraw shield?
If you have the Quick Draw feat, you may don or put away a quickdraw shield as a free action.
mplindustries |
blackbloodtroll wrote:what about a quickdraw shield?If you have the Quick Draw feat, you may don or put away a quickdraw shield as a free action.
Ha, actually looking the item up instead of relying on the description in the first post helps! My mistake.
mplindustries |
blackbloodtroll wrote:No, you can throw them as a free action. As many of these shields you can carry, you can throw, in less than one round.Are you really saying that if you had quick draw and could carry thirty quickdraw throwing shields, that you could throw all of them as a free action?
Crap, by RAW, he's right. Well, no, by RAW, you have as many free actions as the GM allows, so by RAW, he could throw as many as the GM allows.
blackbloodtroll |
blackbloodtroll wrote:No, you can throw them as a free action. As many of these shields you can carry, you can throw, in less than one round.Are you really saying that if you had quick draw and could carry thirty quickdraw throwing shields, that you could throw all of them as a free action?
RAW, yes.