Ring of Sustenance - How well you work?


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Ok... So I have a Ring of Sustenance

I walk into an Anti-Magic Zone for a brief while- ... then I walk back out..

Do I have to wait another week for the Ring to work again?

Simple Question- ... aaaannnd GO!


Suppressed, not dispelled, I would say no. The fluff is that the ring must "tune to the wearer" or somesuch. To keep the music analogy going, an anti-magic field is a mute, not a warped tuning fork.


What Magnu said. If the ring is removed, it must be reattuned to the wearer. But if just suppressed, it should come right back on when the wearer exits the field.


A more important question:

If you walk into an antimagic area after benefiting from the ring for a long period of time, do you immediately suffer the penalties the ring was protecting you from, due to the magic that was sustaining you being surpressed?

For instance, would someone who hasn't eaten in a month because the ring was making it so they didn't need to immediately be considered to be starving and (presumably) dying?


No. The ring doesn't delay starvation, it provides nourishment (most likely during the mandatory 2 hours of sleep.)


No, as the magic actually fulfills the wearer's needs, not unnaturally sustains the wearer without fulfilling them (the basis for the sustenance is Create Food and Water which has no such problems over long-term use).

The REAL question is, if someone had a Ring of Sustenance in real life, would said ring automatically make them healthier (presuming they utilize the ring and not, say, supplement it with, say, completely-awful-for-you-foods-that-basically-give-you-heart-attacks-just-b ecause).

EDIT: DANG it, ninja'd again! Well done, sir. :)


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DreamAtelier wrote:
For instance, would someone who hasn't eaten in a month because the ring was making it so they didn't need to immediately be considered to be starving and (presumably) dying?

It DOES say "continually provides its wearer with life-sustaining nourishment."

Though- that would be an epic cursed item- ... It has the 'Life Span' of a month or so- then it drops it effects- leaving you tired as hell- and starving :P


My group actually had a conversation about this ring. One of my party members has one and he stated that he never needed to um... re-leave himself since he was sustained by magic. I as the DM said that was a negative... that the ring actually produced physical nourishment that was absorbed through the ring... and that there was still waste so to speak.

It came up because a PC got ambushed while going off in the woods to... well you know.


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Thomas Writeworth wrote:
DreamAtelier wrote:
For instance, would someone who hasn't eaten in a month because the ring was making it so they didn't need to immediately be considered to be starving and (presumably) dying?

It DOES say "continually provides its wearer with life-sustaining nourishment."

Though- that would be an epic cursed item- ... It has the 'Life Span' of a month or so- then it drops it effects- leaving you tired as hell- and starving :P

I am SO going to have to give that to one of my PCs!

The group will be given a quartet of rings to help them through the dessert. Unbeknownst to all, one of them was a botched job and is cursed as above. Once it stops working the detrimental effects are immediately felt. It's a shame that the affected PC will only last a day or two, and there is no food or water in sight.

Would make for a heck of an adventure.


RAW, the wearer of the ring should be fine with time without water or food being tracked from when the ring was "suppressed".

In my own game the ring gives the target ONLY enough magical nutrition to "sustain" life and hold off penalties of not eating, drinking or sleeping. This does also mean for my game, the body would stop producing "physical wastes"

The wearer will still WANT to eat, drink and get a full nights sleep, but they won't need to. Otherwise putting this on a guard beast would make the thing too content and lazy to do its job.

IF the ring stops working for whatever reason hunger, thirst and lack of sleep crash land on the ring-bearer dealing 2d6 non lethal and exhausting them. This only happens though IF the characters was choosing not to eat, drink and get a full nights sleep should the ring cease to function for some reason.

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Thomas Writeworth wrote:

Ok... So I have a Ring of Sustenance

I walk into an Anti-Magic Zone for a brief while- ... then I walk back out..

Do I have to wait another week for the Ring to work again?

Simple Question- ... aaaannnd GO!

Either interpretation is equally valid. It's one of those things left up to GM's. Paizo does believe in leaving some things in our hands.


Had a variant in one of our games called "the wedding ring." It worked as a regular ring of sustenance, but made the wearer obese over the course of a couple months. Just like real wedding rings.


I was actually searching for what happens when you polymorph with a Ring of Sustenance. Given the answers here and a re-read (ie. it's about keeping the ring attuned to you), I would think in that situation it would also keep functioning without another week of re-attuning. Mind you, just like the anti-magic field, it would not actually function with you polymorphed, assuming the usual "your stuff transforms/melds and doesn't function while so."

Frankthedm wrote:
The wearer will still WANT to eat, drink and get a full nights sleep, but they won't need to. Otherwise putting this on a guard beast would make the thing too content and lazy to do its job.

I can't completely agree with this. For one thing, it is based on Create Food and Water. I would think that it would curb your hunger. Also, I would think you would be finding yourself waking up after some period of time proportional to your normal sleep habits. Nothing says you can't eat more, wouldn't be tempted by tasty food, wouldn't like to drink mead all evening with friends, or want to/not be able to sleep all day long, though.

Your guard beast reference though... well... sounds very much like you are looking at a particular situation, saying it wouldn't be to your liking, and saying it therefore can't work that way. I don't agree. While your guard beast would, in my opinion, still value tasty treats, a Ring of Sustenance should keep him relatively content as I argue it should keep the PC's so. That doesn't necessarily mean he'll be all lazy and napping all the time. I would say that depends entirely on the beast in question if it did happen. Mind you, it would make it for a highly amusing if the low level PC's could just stealth by the sleeping beasts because they are that way before later in the story the NPC figures out whom can get the rings and whom he has to feed by minion.


Whether or not the ring lets you alleviate the need to dispose of bodily waste is something not covered by the rules.

But in all fairness- nothing about that particular activitiy is covered in the rules. Anywhere. At all.

I'd say it'd be fair for the DM to rule either way, given the general absense of rules about that particular activity in the ruleset at large.
(And no, i'm not advocating for potty rules. lol)

That being said I have a character idea..

Spoiler:
for an oracle with the Wasting disease who uses an item of Prestigitation 2/day and a ring of sustenance to never ever have to get out of his armor (and therefore be seen for the ugly pock marked beast that he really is). That would, of course, rely on the Ring allowing him to forego that particular activity. (and also relies on Presti being able to clean a person as well as objects.. which I think would work only because there is *no* rule in the game covering bathing and no spells that i can find that would do it.. and Presti specifically mentions being able to clean objects.)

As far as how much food you get though, it doesn't say you are starving or always hungry but just on the verge of starvation. It also doesn't say you are continaully craving sleep but can just barely creep by.

The thing takes up a valuable ring slot. If I still had to eat drink and sleep a full allotment when wearing it I'd just ditch it and not bother.

The ring does what it says it does. You are fed and well slept. The ring isn't all that terribly impressive anyway if you aren't a spell caster and further nerfing it just makes it worthless, IMO.

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