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I'm referring to the monster ability specifically, but the question could also apply to Two-Weapon Rend or Rending Claws.
For reference:
Rend (Ex) If it hits with two or more natural attacks in 1 round, a creature with the rend special attack can cause tremendous damage by latching onto the opponent's body and tearing flesh. This attack deals an additional amount of damage, but no more than once per round. The type of attacks that must hit and the additional damage are included in the creature's description. The additional damage is usually equal to the damage caused by one of the attacks plus 1-1/2 the creature's Strength bonus.
Now, would the enhancement bonus from an Amulet of Mighty Fists be applied to the damage from a rend attack?
And to complicate the question, what if only one claw (or weapon) had an enhancement bonus?
would the enhancement bonus from an Amulet of Mighty Fists be applied to the damage from a rend attack?
Rending Claws - No, it just adds 1d6 precision damage.
Two-Weapon Rend - Maybe? It adds strength, but it's still a unique dice type, rather than weapon damage, so I would lean towards no.
Rend (Ex) - Probably, since it's generally just like another of it's attacks. Strength applies, so the rest probably would too.
Good questions, though. FAQ'ing.
I was looking for the answer to this question once, and found a really long thread about it. I believe the answer, according to James Jacobs, was that it is just sort of extra damage applied to the attacks. It isn't an attack of its own, and thus doesn't benefit from sneak attack, enhancement bonuses, or any of the other odd and ends a attack would get.
Thanks Grick. I missed the line where Rending Claws is called out as precision damage. That outright eliminates it. The other two are iffy, but I'm leaning towards "No" to my own question. Rends aren't called out as normal attacks in any other way; you can only extrapolate that by assuming the extra Strength damage makes it so.
I was looking for the answer to this question once, and found a really long thread about it.
Mort, do you happen to have a link to that thread? I'd be interested in seeing what was said.
Is this the only way to get rend?
There's also Boar Style, which grants an ability sort of like rend. It's called bleed damage though and there's a lot of discussion on the forums about how that feat is supposed to work. It still functions like a rend, as you need two successful (unarmed) strikes to execute the additional damage.
Somewhat related:
I'd say that the rend damage shouldn't gain the benefits of Power Attack. Rend is already bad enough.
Rend adds damage to an attack; it's not an attack in and of itself. Just as power attack won't increase sneak attack damage or constrict damage, it won't increase rend damage (although it DOES increase the damage inflicted by the attacks that are necessary to trigger rend in the first place). Rake attacks ARE attacks, so power attack applies there.