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I'm trying to figure out if the new abilities for Time Sight replace the old one, can be used as well as the old ability, or are function together with the old ability at the same time. Can anyone share some insight?
Time Sight (Su): You can peer through the mists of time to see things as they truly are, as if using the true seeing spell. At 15th level, this functions like moment of prescience. At 18th level, this functions like foresight. You can use this ability for a number of minutes per day equal to your oracle level, but these minutes do not need to be consecutive. You must be at least 11th level to select this revelation.
Bumping because I still have no idea...
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Well... to be honest, that revelation really is very inaccurately worded.
Since the abilites you get are vastly different from each other (as in, you don't get teleport and later change that into greater teleport), and it wouldn't really make any sense that you gain the ability to percieve reality as it really is, only to lose it later in exchange for a "quick jolt of foresight"-buff, I would rule that you get them in addition to those you had before.
Apart from that, I'd like to throw in another question: what exactly is meant with "functions like moment of prescience"? Normally, if you cast that spell, you gain a boost for one single instance of your choice that happens during the spell's duration...
Does that mean that you only get one boost for one instance that happens during one of the minutes your spell is active?
And, since normally the spell ends when you take the boost, does it deactivate the whole Time Sight revelation?
Or, as you don't have to use your minutes consecutively, does that mean that you get one boost for every time you activate your ability (that is, for each of your minutes)?
Just wondering, did any of these issues get resolved? I mean it's been long since I've houseruled this thing, but does anyone know what was actually intended for this revelation?
Bumping for my own curiosity.
Has this ever been answered?
Thread Neco! Surely they must stack, but its worded very poorly. This would be very odd if they didn't stack. I FAQ'd it.
This has been bothering me for a while too. Likewise marking for FAQ.
Hit the same question wall. Do you have access to all uses of Time Sight or do you need to use a minute for each, or do the new versions overwrite the old?
bumped!!!!
You've ruined the pattern! Now the wrath of the Illuminati will descend upon us. If only we could have foreseen this....
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Disclaimer:
This is my opinion. The rules are lacking and don't give an answer.
As I see it, you have all three abilities, but activating them is a separate action and is paid separately.
So, at level 18, you can activate true sight for 1 minute (maybe even for a single round, there is no text saying it is used in 1-minute increments).
Or/and (spending a different action) you can activate Moment of prescience (for minutes/level at most, not particularly useful).
Or/and then you can activate Foresight.
Note that it doesn't say that it is a swift or immediate action, so activating the ability is a standard action.
Moment of prescience can be kept active for a few minutes, spending 1 round from your pool for every round it is active. When you use the bonus it ends and you stop spending your pool. Somewhat useful if you think that there will be trouble in the near future, but way less if you want a buff for something that can happen sooner or later.
In theory, by spending 2 rounds you can have a large bonus to a skill check or a save you know you will have to make. But it requires foresight (not the spell) to time it correctly.