Can you make bullets out of other materials and metals? How many?


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So a player would like to make cold iron pellets for his Gunslinger since they're coming across more fey as of late. I'd love to help him, but only bullets made out of adamantine and silver are listed.

So, can it be done? Is it the same as how it works in the core rules that it'd just cost double the amount? So in essence a single cold iron bullet is 2 gold? It looks like that for adamantine. It's 1 gold plus 60 for being adamantine. However, silver's not like that. Any ammunition made in silver is +2. It should be 3, but instead it's 25. How does that work? It's quite the jump. Is a mithral bullet 501 gold?

But yes, how does that also work for raw materials? If I buy a pound of adamantine, how many bullets does that get me? A dozen? Two dozen? How much is a pound of silver? How much for a pound of cold iron? Only mithral has a weight cost that I've been able to find.


kevin_video wrote:

So a player would like to make cold iron pellets for his Gunslinger since they're coming across more fey as of late. I'd love to help him, but only bullets made out of adamantine and silver are listed.

So, can it be done? Is it the same as how it works in the core rules that it'd just cost double the amount? So in essence a single cold iron bullet is 2 gold? It looks like that for adamantine. It's 1 gold plus 60 for being adamantine. However, silver's not like that. Any ammunition made in silver is +2. It should be 3, but instead it's 25. How does that work? It's quite the jump. Is a mithral bullet 501 gold?

But yes, how does that also work for raw materials? If I buy a pound of adamantine, how many bullets does that get me? A dozen? Two dozen? How much is a pound of silver? How much for a pound of cold iron? Only mithral has a weight cost that I've been able to find.

well 30 bullets way 1/2 pound so to make 30 mithril bullets would take 280gp. To make 1 adamantium is 61gp, cold iron would be 2gp, etc... you have to follow the way the rules have it for ammunition, it doesnt matter if a pound of adamantine could make 100 bullets, there is no price so listed for ingots or wt of the material in book, so got to go by the chart, since ammunition is typically 60=1pound then that would indicate that you would be 3600gp for 1 pound of adamantine. regardless of the fact that a orc double axe that weighs 15 pounds cost 3000gp to make adamantine.


The real question you have to ask yourself is, in your mythology, how 'cold' is cold iron?

In some mythologies, the default assumption is that cold iron can never be exposed to any source of heat greater than the absolute minimum for it to be shaped. Which is often taken as an assessment that it can't be fired from a gun, as the temperature of the expanding powder and the friction of iron on the barrel results in it being heated too much, and so the cold iron properties are lost.

In other mythologies, cold iron is essentially considered "anything that isn't steel", and cold iron ammunition would be relatively easy to get away with.


DreamAtelier wrote:

The real question you have to ask yourself is, in your mythology, how 'cold' is cold iron?

In some mythologies, the default assumption is that cold iron can never be exposed to any source of heat greater than the absolute minimum for it to be shaped. Which is often taken as an assessment that it can't be fired from a gun, as the temperature of the expanding powder and the friction of iron on the barrel results in it being heated too much, and so the cold iron properties are lost.

In other mythologies, cold iron is essentially considered "anything that isn't steel", and cold iron ammunition would be relatively easy to get away with.

I would never have considered the firing to be a long enough exposure to lose the properties. Otherwise any character exposed to a fire attack such as burning hands would lose his cold iron weapons. i would consider it the manufacture of said weapon. Which would mean you could only use things like a chisel and file. So getting a round shot would end up being almost as much work as a dagger (making something round is actually stunningly difficult). So I would probably end up pricing it as the same as adamantine just due to the time/expertise involved.

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Tharg The Pirate King wrote:
well 30 bullets way 1/2 pound so to make 30 mithril bullets would take 280gp. To make 1 adamantium is 61gp, cold iron would be 2gp, etc... you have to follow the way the rules have it for ammunition, it doesnt matter if a pound of adamantine could make 100 bullets, there is no price so listed for ingots or wt of the material in book, so got to go by the chart, since ammunition is typically 60=1pound then that would indicate that you would be 3600gp for 1 pound of adamantine. regardless of the fact that a orc double axe that weighs 15 pounds cost 3000gp to make adamantine.

See, you say "have to follow the way the rules have it for ammunition", but even they aren't. Again, look at the silver bullet. A single silver bullet. As I mentioned in my previous post, it costs 25 gold. A bullet costs 1, and silver ammunition costs +2. A light silver weapon costs +20. Why is it 25 gold? That's my question. That was my original question in my OP. And based on that, if there's a specific minimum cost, what would the cold iron be? Double the silver cost? So 50? Is the silver bullet better than the mithral bullet because if a mithral bullet is only going to cost me 280g for 30, I'll buy that over the 750g it's going to cost me for 30 silver ones.

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