How to screw the pooch: Tetori!


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Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber

So I downloaded my new copy of Ultimate Combat today and i was super excited!!! Wow do monks get lots of love in this book!! I am in a game right now where I play a monk who is a grapple specialist and I was really excited about the Tetori Archetype. It seems perfect with my character concept. I was going to retcon my guy into a tetori and see if my DM would allow it.

Then I went to write it up and found out that 3 out of the 4 new feats the class gets don't exist.

Fantastic.


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Specifically... Crushing Embrace, Twin Lock, and Backbreaker don't seem to exist.

However, could you also play the grappling type monk with a maneuver master, flowing monk, or martial artist?


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Perhaps the feats were renamed in a late draft but the reference snuck through editing. There is no "Choke Hold", but there is a Chokehold feat. And there is no backbreaker feat but there is a bonebreaker feat. Likewise, there is a Crushing Blow rather than a Crushing Embrace. Dunno what the Twin Lock woulda renamed to though.

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Dreaming Psion wrote:
Perhaps the feats were renamed in a late draft but the reference snuck through editing. There is no "Choke Hold", but there is a Chokehold feat. And there is no backbreaker feat but there is a bonebreaker feat. Likewise, there is a Crushing Blow rather than a Crushing Embrace. Dunno what the Twin Lock woulda renamed to though.

Not happy so far with Paizo's editing and quality checking for UC.

Scarab Sages

Helaman wrote:


Not happy so far with Paizo's editing and quality checking for UC.

Its about on par with Ultimate Magic.

Oh wait.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Matthew Trent wrote:
Helaman wrote:


Not happy so far with Paizo's editing and quality checking for UC.

Its about on par with Ultimate Magic.

Oh wait.

No, it's not.

There's exactly one archetype which needs errata. That's about the error level of APG, which out of the box required errata with one feat (Selective Spell), or the Core Rulebook (Paladin smite). Please, don't let your nerdrage lead you to misinformation.


I'd say it's so minor it goes under "Meh, human error." and is less impacting than say, all the typo's in dark heresy series.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Tyki11 wrote:
I'd say it's so minor it goes under "Meh, human error." and is less impacting than say, all the typo's in dark heresy series.

Yeah, nothing gets close to those.


You seem to forget that the complainers are all straight-A students that do not get their essays back with loads of red marks of spelling and grammar errors.


I'm pretty sure the bone breaking and neck snapping feats are there or were renamed. I remember reading them.


LoreKeeper wrote:
You seem to forget that the complainers are all straight-A students that do not get their essays back with loads of red marks of spelling and grammar errors.

That's why people who publish stuff as an industry have people they pay to edit their work before it goes out for sale. Who should catch things, like references that don't actually exist.


yeah same page here as op my luchador is now sitting this one out.

They know and are working on it i hope.


Easy fix is just to talk to your DM and get those three feats opened up for standard Monk bonus feats.


Gorbacz wrote:
errata... or the Core Rulebook (Paladin smite). Please, don't let your nerdrage lead you to misinformation.

Yea, and then you have the 'errata' generated by nerdrage.

"Waaaahh, the paladin in my group kills dragons and undead too effectively, Waaaahh!"

Liberty's Edge

Honestly why hire editors when a thread will pop up here within five minutes of release listing every spelling error/missing reference in the book?*

*I'm kidding.


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Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber

Just to piggy-back on my original post, I recently was looking at the Magus Archetypes and under Magus Arcana for the Kensai it lists Deadly Follow-up and Precise Prowess, neither of which appear in the book either.


there is a formal ultimate combat errata post if you care to post that there

Liberty's Edge

While I get frustrated by a lot of the typoes, I think Paizo is best in industry here. I mean, look at how many errors would get through back when WotC did equivalently complex books in 3.5- but much more importantly, note how much more of each of the Paizo books is dedicated to rules that actually had to be tested, instead of just "here's the beginnings of an adventure" that most of the Complete's had.

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