Name Violation |
Ok, so I'm a little confused.
Half-Orcs are fearsome and gain +2 to Intimidate... but full blood Orcs, despite being (presumably) meaner and nastier don't get a racial bonus? I know, I know "Houserule it", and I will, but still?
i think its because half orcs are considered "outsiders" in any society, so it represents peoples innate "fear" of them
golem101 |
Ok, so I'm a little confused.
Half-Orcs are fearsome and gain +2 to Intimidate... but full blood Orcs, despite being (presumably) meaner and nastier don't get a racial bonus? I know, I know "Houserule it", and I will, but still?
Because half-orcs can still somehow socially interact with society - even if their nature/upbringing usually leads them to browbeat other people rather than talk reasonably.
Moreover there's the "Oh dear Sarenrae, that's a freakin' monster!" factor: half orcs just don't look different, they look monstrous, and remind people of cruelty and violence at the hands of raiding orc hordes.Full blooded orcs socially interact within and without their society through brute force alone.
They won't waste time intimidating, as they'd rather get straight to business and crush/gut/maim their interlocutor, both for fun and to show other how to properly deal with someone.
voska66 |
I don't think Orcs bother with intimidating their opponents, they have no need to. Brute force speaks for them. A half Orc interacting in civilized society can't just use brute force all the time or at in some cases so they channel that into intimidating which is social skill based off Charisma. Since Orcs get a -2 Chr they are even worse at socially intimidating their opponents so they don't bother.
Tiny Coffee Golem |
ThornDJL7 wrote:Because orcs are kill on sight, while half-orcs are the bastard children of raped women which are feared and pitied at the same time.You know what else is kill on sight?
Drow.
You know what else is a player race?
Drow.Also gnomes. *shakes fist*
Gnomes in any game are KOS for me.
meatrace |
meatrace wrote:Gnomes in any game are KOS for me.ThornDJL7 wrote:Because orcs are kill on sight, while half-orcs are the bastard children of raped women which are feared and pitied at the same time.You know what else is kill on sight?
Drow.
You know what else is a player race?
Drow.Also gnomes. *shakes fist*
INORITE!
Shadewest |
ThornDJL7 wrote:Because orcs are kill on sight, while half-orcs are the bastard children of raped women which are feared and pitied at the same time.You know what else is kill on sight?
Drow.
You know what else is a player race?
Drow.Also gnomes. *shakes fist*
Drow are not a player race in Pathfinder. They're in the bestiary, not the core rulebook. It's a houserule if a GM allows it.
Evil Lincoln |
Well, this is kind of covered in the Golarion Setting anyway.
Orcs there have a kind of brutal eugenics thing going on, where they will intentionally capture humans and breed half orcs because they've caught on that the progeny make for smarter soldiers.
It could be that the intimidating demeanor of these offspring is another feature that makes such unions desirable.
Anyway, if you don't want to house rule it, you could come up with any number of plausible explanations. Half-breed races don't need to be mathematical blends of their parent races — there are real-world species that produce some unique offspring too.