Spoiler tag seems not to be working

[Mothman]

I made a post that included a spoiler in one thread – Ith’s PFS pbp

When I look at the post (either in preview or final version) I see the post as it is supposed to look; a small line of text, then several paragraphs of text which is hidden by a spoiler until the button is clicked on. However, one of the other players in this play by post game could apparently see the ‘spoilered’ text without clicking on the spoiler button.

I tried deleted the post and re-posting it from where I had originally typed it up in Word – same result (looked fine to me, the other player could see the spoilered text).

Post was made using a PFS character alias. It was typed in Word then copy / pasted into the thread as is my habit. I am using Internet Explorer 8.

I have deleted the post as it contained information that is not meant to be read by other players in the game (we are playing a PFS scenario and the spoilered info is to do with a faction mission). However, I will repost exactly as it appeared in the post below this one.

[Aldred of Augustana]

Andorans and GM:

Spoiler:

Speaking to Julia in private soon after Fog mentions about the healing:

“My friend Fog here can be blunt, but his sentiments in this regard echo my own; I was dismayed to see men and woman collared and chained here like animals! Surely any person, no matter their station in life, deserve better treatment than that. I expect those money grubbing Aspis folk to keep slaves, but do not we Pathfinders have a nobler purpose and nobler spirit?” Diplomacy: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (1) + 7 = 8

“I understand that slavery is not uncommon here in the wilds of Mwangi; it is the way things are done – but there are better ways. To condemn someone to slavery is to take away their humanity. Alright, you know that we Andorans have a particular issue with this, but let’s strip away the idealogy and rhetoric – I understand that we are far from Andoran. Intelligent, free people work better and smarter than animals, and by enslaving someone you make them no better than an animal. You have a situation here where you need everyone to work as smartly as they can, if you are going to unlock these mysteries and defeat those ape-men out there. I put to you that having these Bonuwat working as free folk will be better for you in the end than having them work as dull slaves.” Diplomacy: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (10) + 7 = 17

“Freeing them would be the right thing to do, and it would be the smart thing to do ... I submit as a third point it would be a favour to us – we who have risked much to come to your rescue here. Yes, we’ve been instructed to do a job, but I think we’ve gone above and beyond here – sneaking into Aspis controlled Bloodcove, having to battle a high ranking Aspis captain in her own territory in order to get your potion supply back up and running, getting all the way here, past the charau-ka and with Aspis mercenaries hot on our tail. Is freeing some slaves, now that the bulk of the physical labour here appears to be done anyway, is that too much to give in return?” Diplomacy: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (14) + 7 = 21

With Fog’s Aid Another to the first check (pity you didn’t make the primary roll Fog!) we get to 13. If Kayluss can successfully aid we can make 15. If not, we will need to make one more successful check.

[Mothman]

Above is the post exactly as I made it. To me it looks as it should; everything after the first line – ‘Andorans and GM’ – is hidden below the spoiler tag. I’m not sure if anyone else can see something different (ie, the several paragraphs below the tag NOT spoilered?).

[Mikaze]

Looks properly spoilered to me too.

I know things can get squirrely sometimes with multiple modifiers nested within each other when line breaks come into play, but that doesn't seem to be happening here.

[Are]

It looks correct for me.

Occassionally the forums create some weird one-time bugs; for instance I once edited a post, but when I went back to the thread my original unedited post was there. The next time I went back, the edited version was there again. Perhaps something like that happened here.

[Dal Selpher]

It could also be the other player's browser settings causing the issue. Not sure what browser they're using, but I'm sure there could be potential issues with all the various plug-ins and add-ons and extensions throught the browserverse. Perhaps such a rogue peripheral is to blame for the revealed spoiler text?

[Freesword]

Only the first paragraph is under the spoiler for me. (Firefox 3.6.16 on Windows)

One thing I noticed is that the spoiler tag appears to be inside an OOC tag. (Spoiler label is OOC color)

[Mothman]

Freesword wrote:

Only the first paragraph is under the spoiler for me. (Firefox 3.6.16 on Windows)

Yeah, that's what the other person was telling me.

[Are]

I checked the browsers I have available, and it works fine in IE 8 and Opera 11, but not in Firefox 3.6 (all on Windows XP).

[Paul Ryan]

Firefox 3.6 on Vista just has the following line overed by the spoiler tag for me:

"Speaking to Julia in private soon after Fog mentions about the healing:"

Same goes for Seamonkey 2.0 on the same computer. Works fine in IE WhicheverVersionItIs for me though.

It looks like it's a browser issue of some sort.

[Mothman]

Thanks for the feedback folks.

[Freesword]

Got it to reproduce in preview in Firefox.

(ooc)OOC Text.

spoiler:

(Start Spoiler)First Paragraph(/ooc).

Second Paragraph. (ooc)OOC: dice (/ooc)

Third paragraph. (ooc)OOC: dice (/ooc)

Fourth Paragraph. (ooc)OOC: dice (/ooc)

(ooc)OOC Fifth paragraph.(/ooc)

I never closed the ooc tag between the text before the spoiler and the end of the first paragraph under the spoiler. If I close the ooc before the spoiler and restart it again after the spoiler tag, it works fine. In the above example the (ooc) and (/ooc) show where I placed the tags to reproduce the error.

Basically Firefox doesn't like the code for OOC starting outside the spoiler and ending in the middle of it.

Would someone using IE please confirm if all 5 paragraphs in my example are hidden by the spoiler tag?

[Paul Ryan]

In IE all the paragraphs are in the spoiler. In Firefox only the first paragraph is in the spoiler.

[Freesword]

Paul Ryan wrote:

In IE all the paragraphs are in the spoiler. In Firefox only the first paragraph is in the spoiler.

Thank you.

So I think I have a way to keep this from happening in the future.

When you have OOC text before a spoiler tag and as the first paragraph under a spoiler, end the ooc before the spoiler and then re-start it inside the spoiler.

(ooc)OOC Text.(/ooc)

spoiler:

(ooc)First Paragraph(/ooc).

Second Paragraph. (ooc)OOC: dice (/ooc)

Third paragraph. (ooc)OOC: dice (/ooc)

Fourth Paragraph. (ooc)OOC: dice (/ooc)

(ooc)OOC Fifth paragraph.(/ooc)

All 5 paragraphs above are hidden in Firefox.

[ithuriel]

Perhaps unrelated, but also in the same thread another player made a spoilered post, then edited it to include a die roll. The die roll was visible to him, but not to me. When I went to post to tell him there was no roll there I could see the roll while in posting mode. When I finished my post the roll was no longer visible and hasn't been since.

[ithuriel]

I'm on firefox 4.0.1 with vista or windows 7 depending on the machine.

[Mothman]

Thanks Freesword, that is great, I think you have identified the problem. I see your post as it is supposed to be.

[Freesword]

ithuriel wrote:

Perhaps unrelated, but also in the same thread another player made a spoilered post, then edited it to include a die roll. The die roll was visible to him, but not to me. When I went to post to tell him there was no roll there I could see the roll while in posting mode. When I finished my post the roll was no longer visible and hasn't been since.

It's there now for me in FF 3 and 4. Looking at the thread that post was from yesterday and about a dozen posts back. Are you saying it's still not visible to you?

The issue with Mothman's post seems to only affect FF 3. When I look at this tread in 4 the spoilers are all hidden properly.

[ithuriel]

The post with the missing roll was this one:
http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/community/gaming/playByPost/ithsPFSPbp &page=15#723

It is showing up now, but was as I described above for at least 6 hours. I hadn't looked back after that.